Make A Commander Game!

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Sat, 2015-02-14 01:14
Fauxis
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So I was looking around at some games here and I thought: "You know what would be awesome? A Commander oriented challenge game!"

So basically each time you will design a commander based on a challenge submitted by the winner of the last challenge.

First Challenge: Design a three colored or greater commander.

Sat, 2015-02-14 01:33
kinokonoronin
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Udgar, Mortality's Bane Black mana symbolRed mana symbolRed mana symbolGreen mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Dragon Mythic Rare
Manaburst Black mana symbolRed mana symbol (For each Black mana symbolRed mana symbol spent to cast this spell, resolve the following effect): When ~ enters the battlefield, it deals two damage to target creature or player.
Manaburst Red mana symbolGreen mana symbol (For each Red mana symbolGreen mana symbol spent to cast this spell, resolve the following effect): This creature enters the battlefield with two +1/+1 counters on it.
Flying, trample
3/3

Notes:

Spoiler:
Manaburst was to appear in a sequel set to the failed Erngrad set I made. Many of the creatures were built as much or more for commander than anything else. Hopefully I can one day return to that storyline and these characters. Anyway, this card is from that project.

Manaburst works better in those rare cases in which you have to pay more than the creature's printed cost. Commander just happens to be the format that this works best in since commanders have to pay a tax to reenter. This gets stronger the more you have to pay for it. As for reminder text, I'm absolutely unsure of how to word it. But I think the intentions are pretty obvious.

Spoiler:

Sat, 2015-02-14 01:59
Celebi
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Sure, although this will be very close to the legendary creature game. '-'

Pryfed Rodd 4 mana symbolGreen mana symbolBlue mana symbolBlue mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Shapeshifter Mythic Rare
Changeling (This card is every creature type at all times.)
Flying
Insect creatures have deathtouch
4 mana symbolBlack mana symbol, Tap symbol: Put a token onto the battlefield that’s a copy of target creature in a graveyard. It becomes an Insect in addition to its other’s types.
3/7

Notes
Pryfed Rodd is the true Lord of Flies!
He/It is based of a character from a manga + my own ideas. On this card, he is the lord of insects (although he can pretend to be any living thing) and can create new species of insects (in his stomach) based of the blood of any being. So it will have the same power + abilities of that living being.
Pryfed means Insect in Welsh (I think. '-') and Rodd is his name. Stick out your tongue
I might change some things over the week. :)

Edit: Added MiniStory

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Sat, 2015-02-14 01:38
Fauxis
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@gukhun, Yeah it's pretty close, difference is that you design the card with it being a commander to have a deck based around it.

Sat, 2015-02-14 01:50
kinokonoronin
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@guhkun: That's pretty sick. Weird name though. Does that mean something or is it just made up?

Also, the fact that it doesn't exile the copied card is crazy. You can just copy Nekrataal or whatever creature is good for your strategy each turn. I'm guessing that's part of why you gave the card such a high cost.

Edit: Oops! My bad. For some reason I read it as being Blue mana symbolBlack mana symbolGreen mana symbol at first. So the assassin is out. A sad 'frowny' I still like it though, but not as much since Black mana symbol is my favorite color.

Spoiler:

Sat, 2015-02-14 01:53
Fauxis
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It would actually make a better BUG commander Shocked

I guess it technically is...

Sat, 2015-02-14 02:21
Celebi
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@Fauxis, yes. Its true. And you can use planeswalkers in this topic too. Winking smiley

@Kino
Yes! He/It is based of a character from a manga + my own ideas. On this card, he is the lord of insects (although he can pretend to be any living thing) and can create new species of insects (in his stomach) based of the blood of any being. So it will have the same power + abilities of that living being.
Pryfed means Insect in Welsh (I think. '-') and Rodd is his name. Stick out your tongue

Also, his color identity is BUG, so him + Nekrataal can be indeed a cute combo.

Well, I'll put this on the "notes"

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Sat, 2015-02-14 02:28
kinokonoronin
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Oh right. That's why I thought he was Green mana symbolBlue mana symbolBlack mana symbol. The ability is Black mana symbol. The first time I saw that, then the second time I didn't for some reason.

Also, this is starting to remind me of that guy from Toriko who spits out bugs. Gross, but still cool.

Spoiler:

Sat, 2015-02-14 06:32
quarryking103
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This seems like a fun game. Especially this first challenge, seen as I recently created a Legendary Creature for each of the three and four colour combinations (and also two five colour commanders). The hard part is deciding which to choose.

Sama the Equalizer White mana symbolBlue mana symbolBlack mana symbolRed mana symbolGreen mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Elemental Mythic Rare
Whenever a player draws a card, if it wasn't drawn due to this ability, each other player draws a card.
Whenever another creature enters the battlefield, if it didn't enter the battlefield due to this ability, each player other than that creature’s controller puts a token onto the battlefield that is a copy of that creature.
Whenever another creature dies, if it wasn’t sacrificed due to this ability, each player other than that creature’s controller sacrifices a creature.
5/5

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Sat, 2015-02-14 03:20
Zuty
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Gharris, He With Many Faces 7 mana symbolGreen mana symbolGreen mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Naga Shapeshifter Rare
Delve (You may exile any number of cards in your graveyard as you cast this spell. It costs 1 less to cast for each card exiled this way.)
Gharris, He With Many Faces power and toughness are each equal to the number of exiled creature cards you own.
Blue/black mana symbolBlue/black mana symbol: Gharris, He With Many Faces becomes a copy of any exiled creature card you own and gains this ability.
*/*

I made this card in the Challenge Game thread and I think it would make for a VERY interesting EDH commander.
Unfortunately, I can't find a good enough picture for a card.

~Zuty

Sat, 2015-02-14 10:23
Amedras
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The Chargong Regiment 1 mana symbolGreen mana symbolWhite mana symbolBlue mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Kor Soldier Mythic Rare
Reach (This creature can block creatures with flying.)
Whenever an Aura becomes attached to The Chargong Regiment, if it isn't a token, you may put a token onto the battlefield that’s a copy of that Aura and attach it to target creature.
2/4

I have fluff too if you want to hear more
Yes, the Chargong Regiment. Not at full strength, admittedly - usually a battlion's on the front somewhere, and squads are constantly getting attached to other units to share "the Chargong Blessing" - but this is still near the upper limit of how many individual bodies you can count as a single commander.

These cards are cool, but could you sell me on an intro pack for it?

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Sat, 2015-02-14 14:42
Lord of the Drakes
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Uldaar, Lich King of Unx 3 mana symbolBlue mana symbolBlack mana symbolRed mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Zombie Wizard Mythic Rare
The first Instant or Sorcery spell you cast each turn costs 1 mana symbol less to cast for each soul counter on Uldaar and has Gravestorm. (When you cast that spell, copy it for each permanent put into a graveyard this turn. You may choose new targets for the copies.)
Tap symbol, sacrifice another creature: Put a soul counter on Uldaar.
3/5

Render

This is probably the third time I've submitted this card. It originated from the Challenge Slots, but despite the whacky nature of the game this design, I'm really happy with the result. The Limits have been:

LIMIT #9: Count on your card using counters.
LIMIT #102: Missing something? Your card references a keyword it doesn't have! (Thanks, Grishnax!)
Limit #113: We've all seen it coming: Your card uses or cares about a futureshifted mechanic! (Like Delve, Aura swap, Fortify..)

Note that this card´wasn't desinged to be a commander from the getgo, but it sort of grew into its role due to its splashy, larger that life playstyle.

Sat, 2015-02-14 23:00
Fauxis
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Imma cut it short here guys, no more entries, will judge tomorrow.

Sun, 2015-02-15 16:30
Fauxis
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Judging, this was really tough as there were a lot of good entries

Spoiler:
Kinokonoronin- I believe Manaburst could just be an enter the battlefield affect, or just make it a kicker affect. Mana burst could work really well in commanders though. I like the initial idea.

Guhkun- Love Pryfed, flawlessly fits the BUG style, would want to build a deck around him.

Quarryking- Kinda boring honestly, doesn't really make a win condition or a deck to build around, just stalls the board out, but perhaps that's the point. I do appreciate the concept.

Zuty- Awesome! Only one thing: when he becomes a copy of a creature he loses his other ability.

Amedras- Very interesting! There definitely are some aura decks out there and I'd be very intrigued by a deck built around it.

Lord of the Drakes- Really cool and synergistic, fits the colors perfectly.

winners
3rd
Amedras with The Chargong Regiment
Runner Up
Lord of the Drakes with Uladaar
Winner
Guhkun with Pryfed Rodd!!! Congrats!

Congratulations to the winners, first place decides the next challenge.

Sun, 2015-02-15 16:59
kinokonoronin
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@Fauxis: If it were a kicker effect, it couldn't count the printed cost of the creature, only the additional kicker costs. It also couldn't be an enters the battlefield effect, because it couldn't scale up with additional costs that way. Neither of those options does the same thing. D:

@guhkun: Congrats.

Spoiler:

Sun, 2015-02-15 17:14
Fauxis
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I mentioned already how mana burst actually works better with commanders and in commander environments, but I feeł it could just be: when ~ enters the battlefield [effect] for each Black mana symbolRed mana symbol spent to cast it.

Sun, 2015-02-15 17:20
kinokonoronin
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Ah so it's more of a wording thing really. That's not a functional change like I thought you were saying. And I agree.

Actually, I took the card straight out of my old set file without changing it. Most of the mechanics I made back then are poorly worded or completely broken. So it does need a textual reworking for sure. All of the Manaburst abilities I made were just ETB triggers in the end, as you have said.

Spoiler:

Sun, 2015-02-15 17:22
Celebi
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@Fauxis
Awn, Thank you! A happy smile I'll admit that I'm kinda proud of my design for Pryfed Rodd. :3

For the next Commander Game: Make a Human commander with Converted Mana Cost 3, its color identity can't be colorless or more than 3 colors.

Yes, it can be for the Tiny Leaders format, if you want. A happy smile

Good Luck! Judging coming in 2 days.

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Sun, 2015-02-15 20:28
Temata38
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Gramias, The Steel Grave White mana symbolBlue mana symbolBlack mana symbol
Legendary Creature- Human Artificer Mythic Rare
Protection from non-artifact creatures.
Whenever an artifact is put into the graveyard from the battlefield put a +1/+1 counter on ~.
Remove a +1/+1 counter from ~: The next artifact spell you cast this turn costs 2 mana symbol less to cast.
Counters remain on ~ as it moves into any zone other than its controllers hand or library.
1/1

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Sun, 2015-02-15 21:21
Amedras
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Irham, Traitor of Valeron 1 mana symbolWhite mana symbolBlack mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Human Knight Mythic Rare
Exalted (whenever a creature you control attacks alone, that creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)
No more than X creatures can attack each combat, where X equals Irham, Traitor of Valeron's power.
1/3

Notes and Commentary
Irham the Traitor is Alaran, and inspired by exalted being nonviable in Tiny Leaders. He began life as a substitute standard Rafiq of the Many, and it's conceivably possible to build an M13-heavy Orzhov exalted deck around him. Obviously, there was some concept drift along the way.

My biggest hangup with Irham is his casting cost; I've played with all the permutations, and none of them satisfy me. 1 mana symbolWhite mana symbolBlack mana symbol is gold-bordered, and looks like an Alara legend, but it's maybe a bit slow for Tiny Leaders; Irham is obvious removal bait and very squishy. White mana symbolBlack mana symbol is both forbidden and too aggro. A 2/W hybrid mana symbol.Black mana symbol is STILL too aggro, but with ugly reminder text that feels like cheating the spirit of the challenge. 1 mana symbolWhite/black mana symbolWhite/black mana symbol would be legit, and basically preclude the possibility of mana screwing, but it's not gold and it's very colorful; the too-obvious strategy would be turn-3 Athreos, God of Passage into turn-4 Irham for massive damage.

I could also see Irham as an EDH commander, with exalted in there for decoration.

These cards are cool, but could you sell me on an intro pack for it?

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Sun, 2015-02-15 20:19
ThatDude9795
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Raynak, Speaker of Burning-Tree1 mana symbolRed mana symbolGreen mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Human Shaman Rare
Creatures you control have haste.
Whenever a creature you control enters that battlefield, you may add Red mana symbolGreen mana symbol to your mana pool.
1/2

Sun, 2015-02-15 20:22
Celebi
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@Temata38
Gramias isn't a human. (At least not anymore. )

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Sun, 2015-02-15 20:27
Temata38
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Oops, your right. Didn't see that part

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Sun, 2015-02-15 21:54
Nazsmith
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Ihirrie, Time Scourge 1 mana symbolRed mana symbolBlue mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Human Wizard Rare
Whenever a player casts a spell from his or her hand, exile it with 4 Time counters on it. If it doesn't have suspsend, it gains suspend.
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Mon, 2015-02-16 00:23
Zuty
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@Fauxis - My card doesn't lose his ability, it even says so on the card. Stick out your tongue

Gregel, the Dawnblazer Red mana symbolGreen mana symbolWhite mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Human Soldier Rare
Vigilance
Whenever ~ attacks, put a +1/+1 counter on each Human creature you control.
3/3

~Zuty

Mon, 2015-02-16 19:17
Lord of the Drakes
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This wasn't originally intended to be a commander as well, but it provides various deckbuilding options despite being monocolored.

Liski the Bloodwitch Black mana symbolBlack mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Human Wizard Rare
Spells you cast cost 1 less to cast for each 2 life you have lost this turn.
Tap symbol: Liski the Bloodwitch deals 2 damage to you.
2/1
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Mon, 2015-02-16 16:03
kinokonoronin
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@Lord of the Drakes: I love Wirard creatures.

Seriously, cool idea though. Suicide black is really fun for me.

Spoiler:

Mon, 2015-02-16 16:19
Lord of the Drakes
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I meant to write Weird! Because they totally appear outside of Izzet's colors and flavor!

Mon, 2015-02-16 16:46
Korakhos
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Well, I'd definitely want to give this a try Big smile

Levira, Mistress of Fire and Ice 1 mana symbolBlue mana symbolRed mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Human Wizard Rare
Red mana symbol, Tap symbol: ~ deals 2 damage to target creature or player.
Blue mana symbol, Tap symbol: Tap target creature, that creature doesn't untap during its controller's next untap step.
"People tend to be afraid of taking their potentials to extremes. I am not afraid; when consequences come, I'll be here to confront them."
1/3

Render

Mon, 2015-02-16 18:41
kinokonoronin
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@LotD: lol

My entry:

Spoiler:
Seshau, Mentor of Many 1 mana symbolWhite mana symbolBlack mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Human Knight Rare
White mana symbolBlack mana symbol, Sacrifice a human creature: Put a 2/2 black and white black Knight creature token with lifelink onto the battlefield.
At the beginning of your upkeep, if ~ is in your command zone, you may discard a card. If you do, put a 1/1 white Human creature token onto the battlefield.
2/2

Edit: Entry added.

Spoiler:

Tue, 2015-02-17 17:44
Celebi
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Judging:

Temata38
The Esper legend, as always <3;
I like Gremias, but I think the last ability is really out of character; Esper (colors) isn't much about +1/+1 counters on nonartifact creatures; And using the unqueness of Skullbriar on it was kind of boring. You could have done it better.
Rate: 3/5

Amedras
I really like Irhan for Tiny Leades; It fits pretty well on a more or less format where aggro is the bomb and its on very good colors for it. Although its not a mythic (at all), its story looks fun.
I didn't get your note about Athreos + him as a 1 mana symbolWhite/black mana symbolWhite/black mana symbol. If I'm not mistaken, Athreos's devotion would be 4 at that point. '-'
Rate: 3,5/5

ThatDude9795
Raynak is completely broken. (If you meant "Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control..." on that wording) '-' its obvious; If you think just a little bit you'll notice it.
I'll just give you an exemple: Hordeling Outburst Adds you 6 mana and puts 3 power on the board.
Rate:0,5/5

Nazsmith
Son, you missed the p/t. '-'
This guy looks a little too powerful; I mean, 4 turn to resolve a spell? For 3 mana?
You'll have to wait 4 turn to kill him with a gut shot (if toughness 1). How can someone even play that? I'd leave the place and never play with that person again.
If its ability gave 1 counter, it would be already very good.
Rate: 0,5/5

Zuty
Gregel is powerful, simple, fits its colors *and* the challenge perfectly.
Its abilities are very "I've seen this somewhere before" (), but I like it a lot. Good Job
4/5

Lord of the Drakes
Liski doesnt fit the challenge. So I can't judge/rate it.
Rate: 0/0

Korakhos
Wow. This one is nice.
Levira looks like a very fair and good commander. At first I thought it would draw you a card too (giving the Sword), but the Ice ability has much more flavor than the sword that give me the colds. '-' (sorryabouthat)
I love the art on the render. Good job. Winking smiley
Rate: 4/5

kinokonoronin
Seshau is amazing. Both for normal commander and tiny leaders; Giving you a 1/1 on turn 0 is not bad stuff.
Name; type; ability; rarity; p/t are all very fitting. Good job! A happy smile
Rate: 5/5 A happy smile

Results:

Spoiler:
3rd Place: Korakhos with Levira A happy smile
Spoiler:
2nd Place: Zuty with Gregel. ;)
Winner is...
Kinokonoronin with Seshau! Congrats. Big smile

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Tue, 2015-02-17 22:19
kinokonoronin
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@guhkun: Thanks for the win. This one must have been tough with all the awesome entries.

Next challenge: Make a commander that you don't mind when it's targeted by spot removal. And not because it's a crappy creature.

As guhkun before me, I'll probably be judging in 2-3 days.

Spoiler:

Wed, 2015-02-18 01:29
Celebi
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Roma VII, the Great 2 mana symbolRed mana symbolWhite mana symbolWhite mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Human Knight Mythic Rare
Battle cry (Whenever this creature attacks, each other attacking creature gets +1/+0 until end of turn.)
Other Knight creatures you control have battle cry.
Whenever Roma, the Great becomes the target of a spell or ability from a source you don’t control, you gain 4 life.
3/4

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Wed, 2015-02-18 03:19
Nazsmith
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Firemind's Assistant 2 mana symbolRed mana symbolBlue mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Human Wizard Mythic Rare
Whenever an instant or sorcery targets ~, copy that spell a number of times equal to its converted mana cost. Those copies target another random permanent.
2/4

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Wed, 2015-02-18 15:10
ThatDude9795
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@Gohkun Holy snap never thought nontoken would be so important whoops

Wushon, Temporal Protector 3 mana symbolWhite mana symbolBlue mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Human Monk Mythic Rare
Unblockable, Vigilance
Retaliate- Whenever an opponent casts a spell that targets ~, you may take an extra turn after this one.
2/3

Wed, 2015-02-18 08:15
quarryking103
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Gezrana, Master Imitator 2 mana symbolGreen mana symbolBlue mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Merfolk Wizard Mythic Rare
Gezrana, Master Imitator can’t be countered.
Whenever a nontoken creature you control leaves the battlefield, put a token onto the battlefield that is a copy of it.
2/3

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Wed, 2015-02-18 17:02
Temata38
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Ashfur, The Silencer 2 mana symbolBlack mana symbolRed mana symbol
Legendary Creature- Rat Ninja Mythic Rare
Double Strike
Morbid-2 mana symbolBlack mana symbolRed mana symbol: Put ~ from the command zone onto the battlefield. Activate this ability only if another creature died this turn.
When ~ dies, up to 2 target creatures an opponent controls get -2/-2 until end of turn.
3/3

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Wed, 2015-02-18 17:39
Zuty
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@guhkun: Thanks for runner up.

Errik, He Who Holds the Banner White mana symbolBlue mana symbolGreen mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Human Flagbearer Mythic Rare
While choosing targets as part of casting a spell or activating an ability, your opponents must choose at least one Flagbearer on the battlefield if able.
Whenever ~ becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, counter that spell or ability unless its controller pays 1 mana symbol for each Human you control.
2/2

Spoiler:
Rather than wait for my opponent to target Errik, I force them to target him. And when they do target him, they better be willing to pay the toll, because he has his allies watching his back to make sure he carries their flag high across the battlefield.

~Zuty

Thu, 2015-02-19 05:40
TheTinyGiant
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Jovarni, Beast Warden 2 mana symbolWhite mana symbolRed mana symbolGreen mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Human Shaman Mythic Rare
Indestructible
Whenever an opponent casts a spell that targets ~, you may search your library for a beast creature with converted mana cost equal to or less than half the amount of mana spent to cast ~ rounded down and put it onto the battlefield tapped.
Other creatures you control have hexproof.
4/5

With Jovarni, I wanted to create a commander that you used as wall against spot removal high decks - a guardian for your zoo. Similar to Zuty's forced targeting technique, I wanted Jovarni to give your other creatures hexproof in order to have your opponents target her more often than your other creatures.


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Fri, 2015-02-20 00:16
kinokonoronin
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Get in your changes now. Judgment is coming soon.

Okay. Judgment is happening now. No more changes, please. Will be done by later tonight.

Critique:

Spoiler:
guhkun

Spoiler:
I like this card quite a bit. I love knight tribal and this guy is basically a finisher if you have some knights out already. Those multiple battlecry triggers are going to seriously stack up, especially in commander.

The other ability is kind of weak, but definitely mitigates the depression of having your big creature targeted. I love how this is a terrible target for Pacifism especially, since all your other knights will still be reaping the benefits of having battlecry - it's like a gift of 4 life.

As a side note, I wish this was Black mana symbol too so I could fit all the awesome Black mana symbol knights into the same deck. Or at least Green mana symbol for Knight of the Reliquary. But you can't have everything I guess.

Overall: Fun, but weak outside of tribe. 8/10

Nazsmith

Spoiler:
I love the idea of this and it reminds me of that one card. What was it? Ink-Treader Nephilim... anyway, while the base card idea is awesome I'm skeptical about how many copies it makes. This is super abusable which is both cool and questionable. If this is your only creature, "target creature you control" tricks start getting crazy. Fatal Frenzy turns this into a 32/4 trample for instance. I think there are only a few cards like that though so no worries.

There is lots of combo potential for this though. If you're willing to put him on top of your library, Jeskai Charm now does twelve damage for Blue mana symbolRed mana symbolWhite mana symbol! But that can't be used if you're using him as the general.

The real crazy thing you can do is target him with your own removal when he's the only creature you control. You could turn your own spot removal into mass (though randomized) removal of your opponents' creatures.

After looking closely for different ways to abuse this, I did find some but I'm not overly worried due to the randomization and the colors this deck would be. The only thing I really don't like is how unwieldy this can sometimes be. I really don't want my opponent using Desert Twister and randomly getting six of my other permanents as well. Unlikely, yes... but it can happen.

Overall: Looks like tons of fun to build around but occasionally it'll bite you right in the buttocks. 7.5/10

ThatDude9795

Spoiler:
WTF? That's awesome but it also sucks at the same time.

1) Unblockable was nixed for "~ can't be blocked" sometime in the past couple years I think.
2) This thing is usually going to be mediocre. No one will ever target this thing on purpose. It's not enough of a threat to bother.
3) ...but this is awesome with Divert and Misdirection and similar cards that are in color. Steal a Giant Growth and take another turn? Don't mind if I do! Edit: I took another look and I don't think this works with the current wording, but it could be modified to work.
4) And it makes you feel pretty safe slapping auras on it. Especially if you have a copy of Angelic Destiny. A happy smile

Pretty cool but a bit inelegant. 7.5/10

quarryking103

Spoiler:
I really don't have much to say with this one. It's a cool idea, but way too powerful without some kind of cost. It fulfills the contest requirements really, really well but I can't see this ever being printed at 4 CMC.

I would just add some kind of cost. "Whenever a nontoken creature you control leaves the battlefield, you may pay Blue mana symbolGreen mana symbol..."

Overall: Very good approach to the contest but I don't think it is well-balanced. 8/10

Temata38

Spoiler:
I'll say the same thing I said to quarryking: Your approach to the contest is also really good, but I'm worried about balancing here. Four mana for a 3/3 double-striker is already worth your mana. The rest is gravy.

Your death-trigger and morbid ability are both really great. But I think I would change double-strike to first strike or at least lower its power to 2.

Overall: Really good answer to the contest. Minor balancing issues. 8.5/10

Zuty

Spoiler:
This thing isn't very exciting. But... this is a very well thought out solution. I doubt you'll have other Flagbearers on the field of course, since you'd rather restrict opponents to just targeting this and the other Flagbearers weren't as useful as this.

The soft counter can force a really high cost when you have tons of humans on the field which encourages weenies or tokens. It gets stronger when you build around it and is really good at screwing spot removal or anything else that would target your creatures. And it is best when you build around it.

This feels like one of those cards that I'd be disappointed at during spoilers season, then realize a week later that it is way better than I thought.

Overall: No complaints except that, again, it's not an exciting card. 9/10

TheTinyGiant

Spoiler:
This is like a more wonky but also more exciting version of Zuty's entry. I like that it grants other creatures you control hexproof in order to force targeting it. Having it search up a beast is really cool but the whole "half the amount of mana spent to cast ~ rounded down" is really unwieldy. I think it needs some restriction but I think it could have been based on the spell that targets your commander.

Lastly, I'm unsure about indestructible. All of your other creatures already can't be targeted, but now you're making the commander immune to "destroy" and damage removal? I think this is unnecessary since it already replaces itself with some beast from your library which is card advantage.

Overall: Very cool but it could probably use a little revision. 8/10


Winners

Spoiler:
Winner: Zuty!
Runner-up: Temata38

Spoiler:

Fri, 2015-02-20 02:36
Temata38
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Congrats Zuty and thanks for the runner up kinokonoronin. A happy smile

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Fri, 2015-02-20 14:36
TheTinyGiant
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Thanks kinokonoronin, for the awesome feedback! I totally agree, and think your idea for having the search be limited by the spell casted at the commander is pure genius. Also, when I put indestructible on there, I completely forgot it was a commander that would just come back later when removed.

Also, congratulations, Zuty and temata38! Nice cards from the both of you!


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Fri, 2015-02-20 17:36
Zuty
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Thanks so much for the win.

For your next challenge, I want to see a legendary creature that comes from a plane devoid of three colors. By this I mean, I want to see a legend who is from a world that ONLY has two colors. Your legend should reflect this as much as possible; most flavorful wins.

If you want to see an example ...

Cheat Sheet
Let's say you pick Blue mana symbol and White mana symbol as your colors.

A White/Blue plane would be a place of peace, intelligence, law, and logic. And there would be NO selfishness, freedom, instinct, chaos, growth, or greed.

Taking that into account, what would this plane look like?
There would be no physical conflict; arguments would be found in a legal manner. The pursuit of intelligence would be top priority, so we'd have a highly advanced world. With a lack of freedom though, the people here would be almost robotic; they would do what they are told without thinking twice about it. Since there is no selfishness or greed, the community would grow as one and no one would be above anyone else. And without any growth (physically), there would only be mental growth.

So our legend could look like this...

Spoiler:
Sir E. Brum, the Mighty Mind 3 mana symbolWhite mana symbolBlue mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Human Wizard Mythic Rare
Whenever you counter a spell, draw two cards.
1 mana symbolBlue mana symbolBlue mana symbol, Tap symbol: Counter target spell.
0/5


This is of course my twist on each of these pieces of flavor and you can justify your reasoning in a spoiler to help me understand the thought process behind your legend. I welcome notes and they WILL help you out in this challenge. I'm not asking for a book report, so don't be scared off, just sound reasoning behind why your legend looks like this.

Best of luck!

~Zuty

Sat, 2015-02-21 08:28
Celebi
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A world with only two colors seems very weird. Specially an allied pair of colors. Paradise?
But, anyway, I LOVED this challenge. Winking smiley

Lets try something like this:

Dr. Frank, the Insane 2 mana symbolBlue mana symbolBlack mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Human Wizard
Mythic Rare
At the beginning of your upkeep look at the top card of your library. You may put that card in your graveyard.
2 mana symbolBlue mana symbolBlack mana symbol, Tap symbol: Exile two creature cards from graveyards. If you do, put a token onto the battlefield that’s a copy of one of those cards with a number of +1/+1 counters on it equal to the toughness of the other card.
2/4

Notes
How is this from a Dimir World? Well, both blue and black are more on the long game. (Dr. Frank's 1st ability); both cares about cards in graveyards; blue likes copies and black death creatures (...)
We all hear of Dr. Frankstein's story, and I really dislike Stitcher Geralf. So I prefer name it Dr. Frank. ;)

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Sat, 2015-02-21 19:24
Theovaf
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Tryvana Forsythe, Glade Mother 1 mana symbolGreen mana symbolWhite mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Centaur Cleric Mythic Rare
Whenever a Forest enters the battlefield under your control, put a 4/4 green Bear creature token with trample onto the battlefield under your control.
Whenever a Plains enters the battlefield under your control, put a 2/2 white Elk creature token with lifelink onto the battlefield under your control.
2/2

Notes
In a world where the preservation of life reigns supreme, and the strength of life comes from nature, Tryvana fits in her world perfectly, as well as any green/white deck she could possibly be put in.

Sun, 2015-02-22 00:16
Temata38
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Masira, Keeper of Serenity 3 mana symbolWhite mana symbolBlue mana symbol
Legendary Creature- Vedelken Wizard Mythic Rare
All nonbasic lands are plains.
Whenever a player casts a black, green, or red spell, counter that spell unless it's controller pays 2 mana symbol.
White and blue spells you cast cost 2 mana symbol less to cast.
2/4

notes
Vedelken Wizard from a plane devoid of nonwhite and nonblue mana. I wanted there to be a reason for that. Flavorfully she's part of a people of the plane that eradicate different mana from all corners and bolstering the presence of the colors it is.

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Sun, 2015-02-22 00:36
quarryking103
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Algro, Garrison Guard 2 mana symbolRed mana symbolWhite mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Elemental Soldier Rare
First strike, vigilance, haste
Tap an untapped creature you control: That creature deals 1 damage to target attacking creature.
3/3

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Sun, 2015-02-22 04:04
Nazsmith
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Suiress, Justice of Rouile 3 mana symbolWhite mana symbolWhite mana symbolGreen mana symbolGreen mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Human Advisor Mythic Rare
As long as ~ is in your Command Zone, ~ costs 2 mana symbol more to cast for each time you've cast it before in the command zone.
Blue, Black and Red spells can't be cast.
Great power must be held in the hands of one who can hold up the law from all evils.
5/7

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Fri, 2015-02-27 23:47
TheTinyGiant
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Alright, so I'm going to take another shot at this... later.

Crap. I totally forgot about this post. I'll have to join in next time.

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I feel like I'm taking a risk here, but what is life without risks? Instead of doing the normal two-colored commander who loyally follows his two colors, I'm going to do a commander that is trying to find more colors. In his dreams he saw emotions unnamed, magic unimaginable. He saw the universe beyond his own and he was determined to bring it to his people. I present to you:

Tyviriad, Restorer of Magiks 5 mana symbol
White/blue/black/red/green color identity Legendary Creature - Human Wizard Mythic Rare
Tap symbol: The next time you cast a spell, you may exile the top card of your library. If it's a spell that does not share a color with the spell you cast, you may cast it without paying its mana cost. Otherwise, you may repeat this process.
3/3

His first ability represents his relentless search for the other colors and is best used in a five colored deck, while his second lets you use his first in even a dual colored deck. If you feel this does not meet the challenge or doesn't give off enough flavor, I can make a different legend.


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Mon, 2015-02-23 05:11
Temata38
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Problem is he's hard to use as a commander and use colors other than red and blue. Neat idea though.

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Mon, 2015-02-23 07:46
TheTinyGiant
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@Temata38: Thanks a lot for the feedback! I see now how it's hard to use other colors and will fix that by changing "instant or sorcery" to just "spell." However, could you explain how it's hard to use as a commander?

Wow. I'm such a doof. Totally forgot that you can't build a commander deck with colors not in the commander, haha.


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