Dogs of War - Multiplayer Wedge Set

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Sun, 2013-10-20 01:43
Styrofoamking
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Athura - Commenting on card as is:
> Alternatively, could be "each player's upkeep, that player", making it a one person at a time thing.
> His sack ability should definitely be "sacrifices a non-demon creature." That way, it can't kill itself.

I love the idea, but personally, I'd make a few changes:

1. Power -This thing is DAMN strong. It has too reeeeeally good abilities... even with the "anyone can use it", this thing is going to hit the board like an Avatar of Woe. True, it's got a high cost and high ability cost, but it will still change the current course of a game by itself.

2. Disconnect - The first ability and the second don't really have any real connection, other than they both involve a demon. An idea might be to link the too together in some way. For example, what if instead of costing X, the first ability gave each opponent X life? That way, the first ability grants life, the second drains it. Or, just add "pay life" to both, which is still in theme.

3. Black Tutor - Most black tutors require you to pay life or cards... paying straight X mana feels weird. As a (weaker) alternative, what if it drew cards, without the tutor ability?

An example:

Athura 4 mana symbolBlack mana symbolBlack mana symbol
Flying Lifelink
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player reveals the top two card of his or her library and puts those cards into his or her hand. That player loses life equal to their converted mana costs.
A 2/B hybrid mana symbol., Pay 4 life, Tap an untapped creature you control: Target player sacrifices a non-demon creature. Any player may activate this ability but only as a sorcery.
4/3

(In my mock-up, he's a double Dark Confidant... for you, he gives cards. For others, he drains life. Either way, you win, and other players are drawing cards, so they're less likely to nuke him.)

My add-on ideas are purely suggestion. Take it however you want.

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Sun, 2013-10-20 03:30
CoreyImperia
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Okay. I like your suggestions, but if she's a double Dark Confidant, she'll need to be Mythic Rare.

Athura, Demon of Desires 4 mana symbolBlack mana symbolBlack mana symbol
Legendary Creature - Demon Monger Rare
Flying, lifelink
At the beginning of each player’s upkeep, that player reveals the top card of his or her library and puts that card into his or her hand. That player loses life equal to its converted mana cost.
A 2/B hybrid mana symbol., Pay 4 life, Tap an untapped creature you control: Target player sacrifices a non-Demon creature. Any player may activate this ability but only as a sorcery.
4/3


Also, an uncommon for the Monger cycle:

*unnamed Green mana symbol Monger* 1 mana symbolGreen mana symbol
Creature - Elf Druid Monger Uncommon
Tap an untapped creature you control, Tap an untapped land you control: Add two mana of any one color to your mana pool. Any player may activate this ability.
1/2

Sun, 2013-10-20 03:51
WindyDelcarlo
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SO there only limitation is that others need to be able to activate the ability without your color mana?

Sun, 2013-10-20 05:44
HeavenBat
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I'll be doing the Red mana symbol Uncommon and White mana symbol Rare X mercs, White mana symbol Uncommon and Red mana symbol Rare tap mongers, and the White mana symbol infiltrator, if all are okay with that.

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Sun, 2013-10-20 09:18
CoreyImperia
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So, in retrospect, I'd like to have the Green mana symbol Uncommon and Black mana symbol Rare tap mongers; the Black mana symbol Uncommon and Green mana symbol Rare X mercs, and the Black mana symbol infiltrator (will they be at Rare or Uncommon or one of each?).

Sun, 2013-10-20 10:37
Styrofoamking
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Sharing the Mongers & Mercs - Gee, hadn't thought that far ahead. I makes sense to let folks do merc/monger colors not found in their company.

Wind - They are inspired by the Mercadian Masques mongers, which each had a 2 mana symbol ability that anyone can use. With the invention of two-brid mana (ex. A 2/G hybrid mana symbol.), it's now possible to make something any player can use, but gives a slight advantage to you (and any other player sharing a color with you.) So, it doesn't matter WHAT the activation is, so long as any player, regardless of color or types of basic land, can use it.

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Sun, 2013-10-20 15:08
WindyDelcarlo
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Got it. So, I have:
Black mana symbolBlue mana symbol monger, Black mana symbolRed mana symbol Mercenary, White mana symbolRed mana symbol monger, White mana symbolBlue mana symbol Merc, and White mana symbol Infiltrator

EDIT: Wait, I have a contradiction Stick out your tongue I can't do both of these colors. I can't put Black mana symbol at rare for monger because Corey has that, but HeavenBat asked for the White mana symbol rare as well. As the off-colors for Nikisa are White/black mana symbol, I need to do one of them.

Sun, 2013-10-20 22:46
CoreyImperia
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I could take both mongers as black and X mercs both green, giving you both black X mercs? That sort half your issue out ?

But because of this trade off, I'd rather keep the black Infiltrator Stick out your tongue

Mon, 2013-10-21 02:44
Styrofoamking
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Or we just make them both and decide which is best later. Addition first, subtraction later.

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Mon, 2013-10-21 03:14
WindyDelcarlo
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I can do white infiltrator anyways

Tue, 2013-10-22 01:48
WindyDelcarlo
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Some Sort of Infiltrator Elemental White mana symbol1 mana symbol
Creature - Elemental
At the beginning of each opponent's upkeep, that player gains 3 life.
A 2/W hybrid mana symbol.A 2/W hybrid mana symbol.: Target opponent gains control of ~.

EDIT: Sorry for double post. Completely didn't notice that

Mon, 2013-10-21 09:28
CoreyImperia
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@Styrofoamking: Or that haha A happy smile