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Thu, 2014-02-27 02:04
Flyinlion
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hey, is there an overlay for the foil star thingy at the bottom of old foil cards?

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Wed, 2014-03-05 01:54
Pichoro
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Absolutely. It's on the same page as all the other templates.

Edit: And now hosting Illuminati.

Edit 2: And now, an update to magic-new-extra, with two new features.

1.) The template now has an option for "unsorted casting costs". Mostly a novelty, I think, but maybe the users will surprise me?

Spoiler:

2.) Now, instead of each hybrid symbol being a separate image, all hybrid symbols are generated by scripting. This means that I reduced the download size by ~1.5 MB, while adding like a bazillion hybrid mana symbols. In fact, I added every phyrexian hybrid, snowbrid, #/C hybrid, di-hybrid, and tri-hybrid mana symbol I could think of that didn't include brown mana. As a side effect, colored XYZ symbols are also now available for the extra 5 colors.

In all, I count 170 hybrid mana symbols now available in magic-new-extra.

Sat, 2014-03-08 01:42
Gcacul

Would you be able to take the black on black planeswalker template and make it for other cards? Other cards namely Tokens and normal permanents? I wanted to make black on black tokens for my decks and that would be wonderful.

Sat, 2014-03-08 05:56
Pichoro
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You should definitely talk to Anuttymous. He was responsible for both black on black planeswalkers, and black on black regular cards. I'm not sure how he did the frames for them.

Edit: For those paying attention, a look at what I'm up to currently...

Spoiler:

Sat, 2014-03-08 19:06
Anuttymous
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I just manually selected and changed the colours on the normal template to match. A few bits get wiped over. I'd be happy to do tokens, and maybe emblems, but that's probably about it without enough convincing. Might take me a bit of time, though.

Also, very nice with the new template. Dunno if you've got that new artist credit symbol or holofoil yet. I'm guessing the holo is waiting for until you see the real print.

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Sat, 2014-03-08 22:00
Pichoro
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I realize this is the easy part, but if frames existed, I'd be happy to save you the time of coding them. But it'd be one less thing you'd have to worry about.

As for the new template, what you see is what I have done so far. However, when I'm done, it will be complete with new artist credit symbol and (an unrealistic) holo. It just isn't quite there yet. The holo symbol is just a very slight problem, not because of the holo itself, but because the shape of the red trim at the bottom has to change to wrap around the holo a bit. I'm currently thinking next weekend will be release time, but who knows? I'm just so excited that I had to show it, though.

The best part is that for the first time, I think I'm going to have the resources to make extra color frames myself. And that's gonna be a good time for magic-m15-extra. A happy smile

Sun, 2014-03-09 04:13
Anuttymous
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I'd noticed the trim changed. Could you do it by just covering up the old trim with holofoil stamp and a new trim? Or replace the whole frame when rare/mythic is chosen? Would mean twice as many .png files, but shouldn't make it too large.

Also, do you know how to change what the default package of MSE is shipped with. Currently, it's shipped with the modern style and most the official styles, but soon people downloading it will expect M15 style, and I'm not sure how or if it can be changed.

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Sun, 2014-03-09 04:50
Pichoro
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It can only be changed by doing a complete new build of MSE.

As for methods of dealing with the holofoil, for now, I'm going to just completely change the frame.

And I'm not going to use pngs. I'm going to use compressionless jpgs. Some wise words Twan once told me - even a very large uncompressed jpg will still be smaller than a png, always. Pngs bloat file sizes, and any concept of them being better because they are compressionless is just ignorance when it comes to the capabilities of jpgs. Although, if someone doesn't know how to work with jpgs, they should probably use pngs.

Sun, 2014-03-09 04:57
Anuttymous
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I was just under the opinion that .png is better in general, except obviously for file size.

I guess I'll have to talk to Twan about adding to MSE, first off, then. Thanks.

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Sun, 2014-03-09 05:59
Pichoro
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Everyone thinks pngs are better, except for file size. Because everyone thinks jpgs are all hideously compressed. But the truth is that one can control the compression, and even have 0% compression. And even at 0% compression, the file size is still like half that of a png of the same dimensions.

Edit: Updated my preview render with something different.

Spoiler:

Might not look like much, but it came a long way this evening. Might even release this weekend. A happy smile

Sun, 2014-03-09 06:00
WindyDelcarlo
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What was the difference between this one and the last one?

Sun, 2014-03-09 06:11
Pichoro
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It now has artist credit, and shows the p/t. There are lots of changes behind the scenes, as well. A happy smile What can't be seen because they're in the folder but not yet in use by the template is the holofoil marks at the bottom. Once I get those enabled and test everything, I think it may be ready for its first release.

Sun, 2014-03-09 07:10
Anuttymous
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You used the same image for the second showing. So those are the same.

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Sun, 2014-03-09 14:55
RoaTheEternal
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Pichoro wrote:
Pngs bloat file sizes, and any concept of them being better because they are compressionless is just ignorance when it comes to the capabilities of jpgs.

Quote:
Everyone thinks pngs are better, except for file size. Because everyone thinks jpgs are all hideously compressed. But the truth is that one can control the compression, and even have 0% compression. And even at 0% compression, the file size is still like half that of a png of the same dimensions.

Firstly, I'm sure you understand it; but for completeness I have to state that pngs are compressed, just lossless (while jpgs are lossy). Think jpg=mp3/aac/ogg while png=flac.

Anyway, which format is more appropriate is dependent on the image. I re-saved one of the images from the Fluxx template as a 100% quality jpg (in GIMP) and the size ballooned from ~17kB to ~41kB. Thinking it may be that it was already compressed as png (which shouldn't make a difference due to being lossless), I went to my "new frame" psd and saved it as a 100% quality jpeg and pngs at compression levels of 1, 3, 5, 7, and 9. The file size of the jpg was lower (very slightly) at 1 and 3, but much larger at 5 and above (which were actually all identical in size).

Clearly my templates, which have large regions of flat color, are well suited to the lossless compression of pngs. The Magic templates are much more complicated meaning that there is much more information to be stored, so the lossy compression of jpgs results in smaller file sizes.

Blah. I may have gotten a little ranty there. Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled thread.

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Looney Labs Games: Fluxx, Nanofictionary, Chrononauts

Sun, 2014-03-09 16:59
Pichoro
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Yeah, that's okay. I got a little ranty as well, just because people always hate on jpgs without understanding anything about them.

Nutty - No, I changed the original sample, which was Ice Cage w/o artist credit to that custom Blood Shade, and then linked it again in my newer post. But they were not the same card. I just wanted to only have the one sample render.

But now I'm adding a second sample render:

Spoiler:

I'm now certain this template will be ready for release today. I only need to modify one image yet, and I just need to get my girlfriend's help with that because I need color vision. Then, I can go live.

Sun, 2014-03-09 20:35
Anuttymous
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I never saw and don't see Blood Shade anywhere...

The holofoil looks a little odd. Did you not try to replicate the bubble-style one Wizards previewed?

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Tue, 2014-03-11 15:12
Pichoro
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The circle is on my to-do list. But for now, I've released a first version of the template.

Edit: Last night I released an update for magic-m15 and a new template - M15 Gods.

And then today, I've just released a Pendulum Monster style for Yu-Gi-Oh!

Wed, 2014-03-12 22:48
Shadow The Necr...
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I just installed the Modern Extra, and I love it so far! Is there any way I can use the Purple, Orange and Yellow mana symbols on other templates? (I don't care that the border won't change color, I just want to be able to create purple cards other than basic modern style.)

Is 500 cards too many for a custom M:tG set?

Mon, 2014-04-07 19:41
Kyoril
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Not sure where this is supposed to go, so I'll put it here. Sorry if this is the wrong spot.

Anyways, here is a keyword file that should have all keywords through JOU, including the conspiracy one.

Thu, 2014-04-17 07:30
Cerby
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Hi, newbie here. I was wondering if there were plans to mix the God and Double-faced templates? If not, where could I find a tutorial to make such a template?

Thu, 2014-04-17 13:41
Pichoro
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I have no intentions of ever making that frame. Splicing together a gimmick from one set with a gimmick from another set, both of which should have fairly limited uses, to make a new more complicated gimmick? Yeah, sounds like a recipe for a template that will be used all the time, right? Or not. So I don't consider it to be worth my time.

Anyway, as for tutorials, we definitely don't have any around here. What you need is to learn to use photoshop or GIMP well enough to make your own frames.

Thu, 2014-04-17 14:42
Cerby
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Alrighty then. *cracks knuckles*

Sun, 2014-05-04 04:42
Pichoro
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I have just gone live with a Fuse Split template, similar to the one showed here earlier, but now with a working Fuse textbox. I may make further edits later, but here it is for now.

Spoiler:

Sun, 2014-05-04 06:22
WindyDelcarlo
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Yay! The fuse template is a thing now A happy smile

Sun, 2014-05-11 04:34
Shizzler

Any plans to do the futureshifted textless in an art backrouund style? great work with all the templates btw Big smile

Sun, 2014-05-11 20:33
Pichoro
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No plans at all for that.

Tue, 2014-05-13 03:19
WindyDelcarlo
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The Fuse templates shift into position behind the monocolors of a set. For example, my White/Blue split ends up between White and Blue instead of after the hybrids. Is this intended to happen? It messed up my card numbers when I switched my split templates to fuse.

Tue, 2014-05-13 09:53
Pichoro
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No, I'll look into it. Probably botched something in the few tweaks I made.

Wed, 2014-05-28 23:32
Pichoro
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And now, I've uploaded the fixed fuse template, with more correct sorting.

Also, a Magic variant of Xerent's Space template:

Spoiler:

And an update for M15 Extra:

Spoiler:

Thu, 2014-05-29 02:18
Anuttymous
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I see your Phyrexian grammar hasn't improved. Winking smiley

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Sat, 2014-06-07 03:58
Pichoro
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Not the littlest bit. A happy smile


Edit: And now, a custom style by an MTGS user named Piet. Images by him, with some work from me, and coding by me.

Spoiler:

Sun, 2014-06-15 08:11
Reality Glitch
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I can't edit the script files w/o it giving me the improper syntax warning, even when I copy & past. But the strangest and most frustrating thing is that it still says that even after I change it back. I have to copy & past the backup file to reset it. Any way around that?

Sun, 2014-06-15 08:38
Convex Frost Fire
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Possibly could you do conspiricy card templates? I dont have a image but i was just wondering. Stick out your tongue

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Sun, 2014-06-15 16:37
RoaTheEternal
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Reality Glitch wrote:
I can't edit the script files w/o it giving me the improper syntax warning, ... Any way around that?

Use plain-old Notepad. Most more complicated programs (like Wordpad) change the line endings when you save.
Some programs (line Notepad++), that are designed primarily for programming, can maintain the line endings, but you have to know what you're doing.

My templates:
Looney Labs Games: Fluxx, Nanofictionary, Chrononauts

Sun, 2014-06-15 17:42
Armond

Hi Pichoro,

I'm really impressed by the Modern Extra template, and I'm sure you probably have plans to extend M15 Extra to include a lot of what's in Modern Extra. However, I had a few things I wanted to ask about:

-Would it be possible to add a colorless-only mana symbol (essentially, the opposite of M)? If not, I feel like this is probably something I could do on my own.
-Will M15 Extra be updated to include M Mana for MTG Extra? This is something I'm pretty eager for, actually.
-Do you have plans to release Fuse Splits and Leveler templates with M15 and/or Extra components? (I realize the M15 templates may rely on WotC printing those cards.)
-Do you plan to update colored X mana to be independent of card color? For example, I'd like a card with casting cost (white X)(green X)Green/wite mana symbol. I could also use a card with a casting cost of Blue mana symbolRed mana symbol and two activated abilities that cost (red X) and (blue X). Hybrid X would also be amazing. If you don't plan on this, is it because it's impossible or because it's difficult? If it's the latter, I might be able to figure things out; if the former, well, I'll live.
-Finally, is it possible to reorder templates under the Style tab? I'm not a huge fan of having to scroll way to the right for Modern Extra if my set is primarily something else.

Thanks for your time, and for all the time you've already put into MSE.

Sun, 2014-06-15 20:22
Reality Glitch
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For colorless only, what comes to mind is allowing <space> to be a valid option for the # symbol in the casting cost.

Sun, 2014-06-15 20:53
Pichoro
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Reality Glitch - I'm not going to answer questions about how to script; there are other much better places to ask that sort of thing on this forum. This thread isn't about helping people learn to template.

Convex Frost Fire wrote:
Possibly could you do conspiricy card templates? I dont have a image but i was just wondering.

No, I thought I'd just let this one go and not bother with it...

Of course I'm going to do one, you shouldn't have to ask. But, I don't have any images for it either right now.

Armond wrote:
I'm really impressed by the Modern Extra template, and I'm sure you probably have plans to extend M15 Extra to include a lot of what's in Modern Extra.

I'm glad you enjoy the extra templates. Unfortunately, there are many features from Modern Extra that I don't intend on bringing to M15 Extra. There is a thread all about it here: http://magicseteditor.sourceforge.net/node/8041

At this point, any old feature from magic-new-extra that's not in magic-m15-extra is one I don't intend to do, unless convinced otherwise. To me, M15 Extra is a fresh start, and an an opportunity to ditch the lower quality and less useful features from Modern Extra, and try some new things.

Armond wrote:
Would it be possible to add a colorless-only mana symbol (essentially, the opposite of M)? If not, I feel like this is probably something I could do on my own.

Make the symbol, and I'll definitely consider it. Or even having a good idea for the symbol would go a long way.

Armond wrote:
Will M15 Extra be updated to include M? This is something I'm pretty eager for, actually.

May I ask why? I have intentionally ditched multicolor mana because I feel it is very limited in its usefulness, and doing so allows me to reclaim the letter "M" for a different symbol, perhaps for Mirran mana, which some have asked for.

You see, there is a lacking of capital letter symbols for mana symbols. There are, after all, only 26 letters, and most were taken in magic-new-extra. In fact, only five were available: D, F, J, N, and V. I've taken some steps to reclaim letters for use in magic-m15-extra, including C, I, and M. I'm also tempted to reclaim Q.

A = artifact
B = black
C = open, formerly chaos
D = open
E = open, formerly brown
F = open
G = green
H = phyrexian
I = open, formerly infinity
J = open
K = pink
L = open, formerly yellow
M = open, formerly multicolor mana
N = open
O = open, formerly orange
P = purple
Q = untap
R = red
S = snow
T = tap
U = blue
V = open
W = white
X = variable
Y = variable
Z = variable

Given all this, without reason and evidence of usefulness, I'm unlikely to include multicolor mana.

Armond wrote:
Do you have plans to release Fuse Splits and Leveler templates with M15 and/or Extra components? (I realize the M15 templates may rely on WotC printing those cards.)

This one's easy.

  1. I have no intention of doing extra variants of any template other than magic-new-extra and magic-m15-extra, unless WotC does another permanent redesign of the main card face.
  2. I will release M15 versions only if images are made available to me. I'm notoriously bad at editing images, and thus, unlikely to do these templates unless quality images are provided.

    Armond wrote:
    Do you plan to update colored X mana to be independent of card color? For example, I'd like a card with casting cost (white X)(green X). I could also use a card with a casting cost of and two activated abilities that cost (red X) and (blue X). Hybrid X would also be amazing. If you don't plan on this, is it because it's impossible or because it's difficult? If it's the latter, I might be able to figure things out; if the former, well, I'll live.

    *sigh* This is something I'd like to provide, but in my current knowledge and way of thinking, I would say that this request is impossible without causing compatibility issues with the rest of the Magic templates.

    Armond wrote:
    Finally, is it possible to reorder templates under the Style tab? I'm not a huge fan of having to scroll way to the right for Modern Extra if my set is primarily something else.

    Not as an end user. One must edit templates to do that.

Sun, 2014-06-15 21:13
WindyDelcarlo
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If Q is needed for something else, because An untap symbol. is an actual thing, what would be the new code for An untap symbol.?

Sun, 2014-06-15 22:43
Pichoro
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This might be crazy, but what about "untap"? Winking smiley

I already moved the chaos symbol to "chaos" and the infinity symbol to the actual infinity character. Why not do the same here?

*Note that these changes only affect magic-m15-extra.

Sun, 2014-06-15 23:17
WindyDelcarlo
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How do you type the infinity character on a keyboard, exactly?
Also, has anyone seen that sometimes there are random pages that are blank? This right now is actually an example

Sun, 2014-06-15 23:18
ZephyrPhantom
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Yeah, for me it's generally the last page of the thread that's blank (for example, my browser shows this thread as having 7 pages but it actually only has 6).

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Sun, 2014-06-15 23:20
WindyDelcarlo
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Yeah, that's exactly the problem. I think it happens when the last page nears completion

Mon, 2014-06-16 02:06
ZephyrPhantom
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Also, quick question, is the chaos symbol typed as [chaos] in M15 Extra? I've been trying to manually insert it without success at the moment.

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Mon, 2014-06-16 02:01
Pichoro
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WindMasterArceus wrote:
How do you type the infinity character on a keyboard, exactly?

No clue, but the Insert Symbol menu under the Format tab has it in it now. And you can copy and paste one from google. I'm not too worried because, honestly, before you read that and went to try it, how often have you used the infinity symbol in MSE? A happy smile

WindMasterArceus wrote:
Also, has anyone seen that sometimes there are random pages that are blank? This right now is actually an example

That's due to spambot posts. I'm not sure if it's caused everytime a spam post is deleted, or if it's that the mods have deleted the user before deleting their posts, but it's due to spam. Like, as of this post, the thread should say it has 309 posts, but that is how many posts it has had if you include deleted spam posts, not the number of current posts. So the forum software thinks there are 309 posts, and starts on the 7th page, but there aren't actually 7 pages worth of posts.

ZephyrPhantom wrote:
Also, quick question, is the chaos symbol typed as [chaos] in M15 Extra? I've been trying to manually insert it without success at the moment.

Yeah, that doesn't work. Instead, either use the Insert Symbol menu or type "chaos", highlight it, and hit the star button at the top of MSE.

Mon, 2014-06-16 02:07
ZephyrPhantom
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Ah, so that's what that button is for. You learn something new every day I guess.

How's the Poker template going, by the way? Feels like a while since that's come up aside from the occasional coding issue thread I see posted about it.

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Mon, 2014-06-16 02:17
Armond

I can provide a symbol, I think. Would just the mana-magic-small and magic-mana-large symbols be enough, or are there other versions you would like/need? And are there any specific settings I should use when exporting? I will be using GIMP, if you're familiar with it.

I would like to have M Mana for MTG Extra in M15 Extra because it's "cleaner" than W/U/B/R/G, especially should one decide to actually print a card. It's not the hugest deal -- I've gotten people telling me M Mana for MTG Extra is confusing and W/U/R/B/G is intuitive, and W/U/R/B/G is terrible so I should use M Mana for MTG Extra for that purpose, so either way I'm going to upset people -- but the set I'm working on, as I maybe mentioned earlier, involves colorless hating colors and colors segregating themselves from colorless, so I need something to indicate "one mana of any color". As you can imagine, "one colorless mana/one mana of no color" is also necessary.

On the other hand, I totally get that symbols are at a premium. Even now, you only have eleven open symbols, and I'm sure Mirran mana is in much higher demand than my dinky little set. I could probably make things work with Purple Mana for MTG Extra (though I think the black plays nicer with a yellow background), or with some shenanigans I could possibly yank M Mana for MTG Extra into its own template. So, if I'm the only person that misses M Mana for MTG Extra, I'm not going to ask you to put it back.

If I really need to put extra symbols into fuse or leveler cards, I bet I can make it work by following the instructions here. As for M15 versions, I guess I'll just wait for someone more skilled at image editing than you or I pulls the image from the inevitable split/fuse cards we'll see in the future.

For levelers... Looking through the images in magic-new-leveler, I bet I could update that to M15 if I had the projects these images were exported from (that is, the files that contain data for the layers). For the most part, I think this job would just be replacing the old background image with the new M15 versions. In fact, if I had enough time on my hands, I could probably do it with what I have. Unfortunately, with summer classes starting in two weeks, I have about as much free time as Modern Extra has free symbols.

If colored X customization is impossible, it's impossible. Compatibility is super important, after all; I know just enough about coding and scripting to know how badly you can break things with compatibility issues.

Again, thanks for this.

Mon, 2014-06-16 02:30
WindyDelcarlo
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Would it be possible to make R/X turn into a red X? Would that work?

Mon, 2014-06-16 02:31
Reality Glitch
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I'm pretty sure W.o.t.C. used for untap and ! for Phyrexian mana.

Also you could use the blank circle for colorless-only mana and assign whatever key you want to it.

Mon, 2014-06-16 02:32
ZephyrPhantom
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@ Wind - R/X as it is right now is already taken as monocolored hybrid mana. (Follows the trend of how you can input any #/color, for example 2/R is A 2/R hybrid mana symbol. and 3/G would be [3/Green mana symbol] hybrid.)

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Mon, 2014-06-16 02:34
WindyDelcarlo
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Wouldn't an X hybrid be kind of awkward for rulings?