Shandalar Community Set

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Sun, 2012-07-29 16:30
sommbsnph

We should not make a tight skeleton yet.

Also:

Kalonia-Valkas Familiar 1 mana symbolRed mana symbolGreen mana symbol
Creature - Boar
Trample
4/4

Evos Isle-Thune Familiar 1 mana symbolWhite mana symbolBlue mana symbol
Creature - Bird
Flying
3/4

Valkas-Xathrid Familiar 1 mana symbolBlack mana symbolRed mana symbol
Creature - Lizard
Deathtouch
4/3

Thune-Kalonia Familiar 1 mana symbolGreen mana symbolWhite mana symbol
Creature - Elephant
Vigilance
4/4

Xathrid-Evos Isle Familiar 1 mana symbolBlue mana symbolBlack mana symbol
Creature - Rouge
Intimidate
3/3

Full Cycle

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Sun, 2012-07-29 15:18
wonderboy_7_7_7
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That cycle I could see working, but way too cheap 3 is a low cost for a vanilla 3/3, and only green gets that, maybe 5 mana cost would work:

Evos Isle-Thune Familiar 3 mana symbolWhite mana symbolBlue mana symbol
Creature - Bird Colorless mana symbol?
Flying
3/4

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"I just assumed blue was the worst color."

Sun, 2012-07-29 15:25
K1L1
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Are we returning both Convoke and Radiance? Two returning is a bit much IMO. And if we cut one, I'd cut radiance. Convoke would just be a much more fun keyword in a high CMC set.

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Sun, 2012-07-29 15:37
wonderboy_7_7_7
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Okay, cut radiance, and the familiars will be one color each for our theme of multicolored spell, and monocolored creatures:

Evos Isle-Thune Familiar will be monoblue and be just Evos Isle familiar and be 3/5 to not make it worse than Air Elemental

Evos Isle Familiar 3 mana symbolBlue mana symbolBlue mana symbol
Creature - Bird Colorless mana symbol
Flying
3/5

Kalonia-Valkas will turn into just Kalonia for 3 mana symbolGreen mana symbolGreen mana symbol

So long, so long, so long, and thanks for all the fish.
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"I just assumed blue was the worst color."

Sun, 2012-07-29 15:45
K1L1
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Another thing; for a multi-color large set, 40 multicolor seems a little... small. I'd go with 60-70 multicolor.

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Sun, 2012-07-29 16:22
sommbsnph

I was planning on uncommon rarity.

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Sun, 2012-07-29 20:56
wonderboy_7_7_7
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OK, 60 multicolor

So long, so long, so long, and thanks for all the fish.
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"I just assumed blue was the worst color."

Tue, 2012-07-31 00:33
sommbsnph

I tried to push to power levels of the Familiars to highlevel in exchange for being multicolor and you ruined the intent.

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Tue, 2012-07-31 02:00
wonderboy_7_7_7
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@sommbsnph:

Sorry for ruining them, how about they are multicolor creatures tainted by the mana sources of two realms. This cycle will be the only multicolor creatures. They will be 4mana uncommons

Seaspire Familiar 2 mana symbolWhite mana symbolBlue mana symbol
Creature - Drake Blue mana symbol
Flying
3/4

Changed it to Drake to make the size make more sense.

Xathrid-Evos Isle will be a Human Rogue for 2 mana symbolBlue mana symbolBlack mana symbol as a 4/3 named Deepswamp Familiar.

The problem with Valkas-Xathrid is that on a forth turn 4/3, deathtouch doesn't do much. Without deathtouch, he could, for example, still kill all of the other familiars, so I propose that it has "Black/red mana symbol: ~ gets +1/+0 until end of turn."
and is named Demonfire Familiar for 2 mana symbolRed mana symbolBlack mana symbol

Kalonia-Valkas will be called Firewood Familiar and will be for 2 mana symbolRed mana symbolGreen mana symbol for a 4/3 trampler.

Thune Kalonia will be called Brightmeadow Familiar and will be 3/4.

I won't post these in the spoiler until you approve of them and I am sorry for ruining your cycle.

So long, so long, so long, and thanks for all the fish.
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"I just assumed blue was the worst color."

Tue, 2012-07-31 20:37
sommbsnph

I do not approve.

My goal was for them to be sightly more powerful then they would normally be at the cost.

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Wed, 2012-08-01 14:23
wonderboy_7_7_7
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4/4 tramplers for 3 mana is more than slightly better for the cost. I am truly sorry for ruining your cycle, but how about this:

Each is like your original post at the top of the page, but for White/blue mana symbolWhite mana symbolBlue mana symbol or Blue/black mana symbolBlack mana symbolBlue mana symbol, to compare for example, to Rhox War Monk

Edit: A four mana 3/3 is average for the cost. A 4/3 trampler is slightly better for four mana.

So long, so long, so long, and thanks for all the fish.
My favorite timmy punchline:
"I just assumed blue was the worst color."

Wed, 2012-08-01 04:45
ThisisSakon
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Don't know how relevant this is, but apparently this plane used to have a natural, almost primal, style of rule before Talrand took to the skies. Eat or be eaten. Oh, and this set should have drakes. Lots of drakes. Token drakes, cheap drakes, etc Big smile

Read here for reasoning if you haven't already. Also, I'm interested in seeing what could be made of Kalyntri as a card Shocked

On the Drake thing
Maybe something simple like
Talrand's Order 2 mana symbolBlue mana symbolBlue mana symbol
Instant Blue mana symbol
Counter target creature spell. Put a 2/2 blue Drake creature token with flying onto the battlefield.

Maybe something like Vibrance could be used to produce the token, idk. *twocents*

Thu, 2012-08-02 19:52
wonderboy_7_7_7
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@ThisisSakon:

Thanks for joining this set. Kalyntri would probably be an anti-control crazy dragon with maybe protection from creatures without flying.

So long, so long, so long, and thanks for all the fish.
My favorite timmy punchline:
"I just assumed blue was the worst color."