New Kamigawa Cycle

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Sun, 2012-03-25 01:04
Cornelius12's picture

First time poster.
Just learned about magic set editor, it's fun.
Anyways, since my favorite sets flavor wise is the Kamigawa and the Arabian Nights cycle, I'd off-course like to see Wizards make another cycle similar to them, not realistic sadly, so I thought I'd make a couple of cards of my own. I'll put up additional cards in the new couple of days.
Currently trying these out in EDH.

Sun, 2012-03-25 01:17
Sewn-Eye's picture

Hm. I've actually contemplated designing a "Return to Kamigawa" set, though having almost no knowledge of its story, didn't really consider it for long.

Anyway, your two cards seem pretty decent. I have two problems with both, though. Kogoratsu seems like a Walker of Ways with a little something extra. Hebi-Ni-Oona seems like a Higure, the Still Wind, again, with a little something extra (that being a Okiba-Gang Shinobi). They just don't really feel as unique as they could be, considering they're legendary and multicolored. That also happens to bring me to my second point; Kamigawa isn't really a set for multicolor. In fact, I don't think there are any multicolored cards at all in the entirety of the Kamigawa block. Kogoratsu could actually be monoblue. Stealing artifacts is a very blue thing. Hebi-Ni-Oona, unfortunately, is very heavily tied to both its colors. Unblockability is blue, discard is black.

Oh, also, you misspelled "Ninja" on Kogoratsu's Ninja-bounce ability, if you're a stickler for spelling.

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—Sedris, the Traitor King

Sun, 2012-03-25 01:31
Styrofoamking's picture

Something I came up with in one of the challenge games that would fit with a new Kamigawa

Tribal Sorcery - Spirit

This way, you could have new spells that still trigger old Spirit ability.

To balance it out, you could have a few creatures with Arcane.

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Sun, 2012-03-25 05:49
Jéské Couriano
Jéské Couriano's picture

Sewn-Eye) Its plot is roughly analogous to Neopets' Meridell plot. Konda/Skarl swipes an artifact from the kami/Darigan followers (Konda uses it to attain immortality); kami/Darigan declare war on Kamigawa/Meridell to reclaim the artifact.

The only real difference between the two is that Meridell's plot was localized to the Meridellan peninsula; in Kamigawa the entire plane was drawn into it.

Sun, 2012-03-25 19:26
Cornelius12's picture

Thanks for the response so far.
I haven't got a clue about the background/history of the Kamigawa set, I've just dived in and begun designing cards for the set because I like it.

Yes, Kogoratsu is a bit like Walker of Secret Way and Hebi-Ni-Oona is something of a blend between Higure and Okiba as you noticed. But both are more, and also more playable (here I'm mainly thinking of EDH/Commander, none of them would ever seen play in a standard format). Regarding power and uniqueness I don't want them to be imbalanced which they could easily become.

Regarding Kamigawa not being multicolor, well the answer kind of lies with the intent for the EDH market, and if Wizards where ever to make a return they could easily fix the mana-base and add multi-colored cards.

Lastly, I noticed the misspelling myself just before you post.
I've changed Kogoratsu to mono-blue.

Sun, 2012-03-25 19:57
Jéské Couriano
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Cornelius) Given that feudal Japanese society had a very rigid caste system, monocolor is more than justified, if we assume each color is its own caste.

Sun, 2012-03-25 20:12
Cornelius12's picture

Here's a couple of more cards.

Sun, 2012-03-25 21:50
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Inanimate's picture

"the Angry" is not a very interesting epithet, and that card feels very red, not white.

Mon, 2012-03-26 21:20
Cornelius12's picture

Inanimate, you're right, She should be red. Give me something better than "the angry"

Yet more...

Mon, 2012-03-26 23:49
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Inanimate's picture

The flavor of assassins, and the abilities of Fujio, are all black. He's essentially an upgraded Royal Assassin.

"Matsu Mieko, the Vengeant" or "Matsu Mieko, the Fierce" are both fine enough, depending on flayer. "Angry" is too ingrained into common parlance.

Tue, 2012-03-27 01:50
Ink's picture

That isn't how red does assassins though.

Myojins are super kami btw. It feels conflicting to have a monk have the same name. Also, a flying monk? In green? Weird p/t distribution.

Like Yazomatzo. Looks very flavorful, except maybe for the deathtouch part.

Tue, 2012-03-27 12:40
Cornelius12's picture

Inanimate. "Matsu Mieko, the Fierce" it is then.

Yes, I', aware that Fujio isn't the way that red traditionally does assassin. Usuaylly reds kill cards have somekind of drawback like Goblin Assassin, it being very random or Diaochan, Artful Beauty being likely to backfire but I don't think it's so far fetched that its a unreasonable card, seeing that Wizards have off late introduced new cards that somewhat goes against the color limits. Like Beast Within, a green card that can kill a creature, to my mind the only other green card is the old Desert Twister. Glissa, the Traitor have first strike although she is both green and black, and Faithless Loothing is almost pure red draw, so I definetely feel that Wizards are beginning to stretch the old restraints as to what powers, abilities the different colors can have, so having a red creature that's in some ways a Shriekmaw and Royal Assassin rolled into one is new but not unrealistic.
Also, it gives red another playable Commander for the EDh crowd, a color I might add that currently only have three in Kiki-Jiki, Godo and Urabrask.

Yes, Myojin is a terrible name, going to find a better one soon.
The idea behind the p/t distribution is basically, that "The transcendant One" is at peace with the multi-verse, and thus very though but not very physically powerful, and relating to the thoughness able to meet the most brutal head-on-assault due to his strong endurance, stamina, thoughness.
And well he's flying because the powers of the mind gives him telekineses.
And that is also why he's immune to sacking effects from Fleshbag Marauder, the Eldrazi etc.

Tue, 2012-03-27 19:35
Jéské Couriano
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Cornelius) All three of those cards are in color (sans beast within, which is blue if Pongify is anything to go by).

First strike is available to black (though not in large amounts), so there is nothing wrong with Glissa having it.

Faithless Looting falls under "Chaos" for red flavor (much the same way Leaf Arrow falls under "Aerialhate" for green's flavor).

Wed, 2012-03-28 09:25
Cornelius12's picture

One more, and one with changes.

Wed, 2012-03-28 19:00
Jéské Couriano
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Kenji, the Moor Ninja) This needs to be higher up on the rarity scale, likely Red mana symbol or M Mana for MTG Extra.

(No racism intended towards black people; I'm pointing out the illustration resembles a Moor as opposed to an Asian.)

Wed, 2012-03-28 21:08
Cornelius12's picture

Jeske, oversight on the rarity scale, off-course he's either going to be Rare or Myt.Rare.
And yes, he doesn't look classic asian, but finding good oriental fantasy art that's good for Magic Cards is very hard indeed.

If anyone have some pics, feel free to throw them up.

Fri, 2012-03-30 01:37
Ink's picture

I don't really see how the art for Kenji screams Moor.

Myojin should be white the way you define him.

"Blinking" is white. Wording is wrong. And that guy in the art is definitely with the Kabuki. Try working with references and follow the wording.

Other than Fujio, your Ninja art do not show any Ninjas at all. They're Samurais as seen in their armor.

Ninjutsu costs are...too easy. 2 generic mana is too easy.