Cretio Created

Cretio Created

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Author: HerzinthTheDark
Release Date: March 2011
Playtested: No
Illustrations: 173/173
Special Frames: No

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Highlights

  • Cretio Created is a stand-alone Magic: The Gathering fan set consisting of 173 black-bordered cards.
  • The set introduces the new mechanics Growth, Essence, and Subvert, along with the return of Buyback.
  • The set features the new planeswalker Valifax, the Created.

Mechanics & Terms

Growth — On Cretio, the oldest of creatures still grow and absorb the raw mana available. As they remain in play, they slowly become more powerful, either by simply gaining a boost in power and toughness, or an increase in the strength of their abilities.
Essence — Even when something is destroyed, it remains in the grasp of Cretio. Many spells and creatures simply dissolve back into pure mana, ready to be made anew and provide mana acceleration after serving their purpose.
Subvert — No matter how powerful the guardian, there will always be tyrants who manage to gain a small foothold over Cretio's inhabitants. Gradis is one of these, and subvert reflects the ability of him and his and his minions to force others into his armies through fear.
Buyback — An old-timer keyword, buyback again shows that nothing is ever truly lost from Cretio. Your opponents should never let their guard down thinking that they have survived the worst of your spells, for it will come back to haunt them.


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      s the planes face their individual conflicts and powerful planeswalkers traverse the Blind Eternities, excess mana seeps forward into the void. Since the dawn of time and magic, this has happened, until reaching a breaking point. The pure, untamed, and unclaimed mana converged into a new plane, Cretio. Life teems across the lands of this new world, and its mages are unlike anyone seen anywhere else.

One planeswalker, created alongside Cretio and as much a part of it as the mountains and plains, has appointed himself guardian. He is known as Valifax. For if one of lesser intentions were to gain dominance over the untapped power of Cretio, they could conquer the Multiverse, and destroy the unstable plane. So, as Valifax protects it, mana continues to gather together, expanding and enriching the plane...

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Sun, 2011-09-04 04:50
shardfenix
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I'm looking through this set. It looks pretty cool. I like the idea of everything being recyclable. It reminds me a little of Odyssey, a block I really love.

Mon, 2011-09-05 21:48
evanmce
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I thought the overall set was wonderful and really well thought out. I thought a few cards were under or over costed for they're rarity. Otherwise, the set was brilliant. Vote up.

Wed, 2011-09-07 20:38
twiz_mwazin
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very good, however, Edge of creation is way too good... look at Mishra's Workshop for example, this is even better. If wizards printed this, it would be banned in a heart-beat btw- noone cares about losing 1 life

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Tue, 2011-09-27 21:44
digiman619
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I like essence and subvert, plus buyback is my favorite real world mechaninic. I just feel it's unfinshed. In my opinion, unless you're using a all-art template (i.e., Future Textless), a literally empty text box is unacceptable. Unless you had some unmoveable deadline, I don't know why you would show us this interesting but unpolished set.

Wed, 2011-10-26 20:34
pang4
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I love the flavor of the set, and the art is simply amazing. The cards you have designed are insanely well made, and I wish I could make cards half as good. I do, however, have a few issues with the set:
*There are no commons. Why are there no commons?

*You buy back buyback, but you do nothing new with it. I was hoping for something like:
Super-divination
2u
Draw two cards.
Buyback 2u
If Super-divination was buybacked, draw two additional cards.
or something along those lines.

*You have a lot of cards that are graveyard-centric, and no other synergies with the graveyard.

*Subvert is stupidly good, and yet I have the same problem with this as I have with Buyback - nothing exciting or unexplored design space has been explored.

Furthermore, I believe Carthage should be destroyed.

Fri, 2011-10-28 01:53
Makuta Miserix
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@pang4 There are commons. There are 81 commons.

Sat, 2011-11-05 15:27
pang4
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<snip>. Was looking at another custom set, musta mixed them up.

Furthermore, I believe Carthage should be destroyed.

Sun, 2011-11-06 11:33
TheOneWhoDisscu...

I love this set very much.
It's flavor is fantastic, I love the growth mechanic, though some of creatures with it might be a little overpowered considering sets that exist at the moment, but look at Baneslayer Angel and Jace, the Mind-Sculptor, and cards have some synergy one with another.
So yeah, keep up the good work

Mon, 2012-03-26 18:22
HerziQuerzi
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@twiz: Thanks for pointing that out, I need to remember to compare to similar cards when making ones that are possible game breaking.

@digiman: Looking back, that was bad design on my part. I'll make sure to keep that in mind for future sets.

@pang: For the Subvert and Buyback things, I was planning to expand on those in later sets (this is supposed to be a block), but that work got sidetracked. Also, I'll look into graveyard synergies for later sets (though it might be too late with Innistrad still going on now).

@Everyone: Thanks for the feedback/compliments/criticisms =D

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Tue, 2012-04-24 00:44
dlgn13

Loving the flavor.
AWESOMENESS WITH ANGEL HORRORS.

Sun, 2012-06-03 03:24
sonicthehedgehog
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I haven't actually seen the set, but the general idea is really cool! Excess mana converging in the void to create a new plane... SWEET!!

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Sun, 2012-06-03 21:11
HerziQuerzi
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@dlgn12 + sonicthehedgehog: Okay, so apparently people like the flavour
Thanks!

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Wed, 2012-07-04 11:38
sommbsnph

-1
I hate the idea of oddysey too similar.
Oddysey is terrible in a small picture.
It took Onslaught and Mirrodin to balance out its impact then they messed it up by banning the contributions of Mirrodin.

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Fri, 2012-07-27 03:07
Bladedeye

This will be long sorry in advance

White

Spoiler:
Angelic Knight
White does not get 3/3 flyers for 4 at uncommon without a drawback (might get a vannila with power creep but not yet) so it certainly wont get one that's all upside. I suggest five mana, it will then be on par with white's other 3/3 fliers with minor upsides

Blinding rays
as is it could cost 1, look at exile/devouring light

Brave the dark
way to weak for rare drop to uncommon or maybe even common

Commander of the heavens
Add W mana or drop P/T by 1 also give him lifelink and vigilance and reword his abilities so they say other creatures.

Disallowed
doesn't work without putting suspend in your set sorry

Disciple of angels
white would have it as a 2/3 (i know first stike seems strange then but white has many 2/3 first stikers)

Eccentric Wisp
White gets better creatures then that give it flying or something also i would remove it or Daerik militia white doesn't need two 1 mana 1/1's with no real abilities.

Enduring Peace
Mythic ability, cost is to low, as an enchantment completely hoses red and black decks. combo decks will love you for this if it doesnt change be very carefull this will get out of hand quickly, use platinum angel as a guide note every color can kill platinum angel.

Guard of terenal
WAY to strong for common drop toughnes by 2 or power by 1 otherwise this will end limited games quickly

Healing soul
make it creature or player unless you have a good reason not to

Heavenly Magus
this works as is but the ability will almost never be used leave as is or raise to 4 mana and let them heal as an instant

Rejected
Try not to give whit such unquestioned removal also have you ever played against someone who was to the point of buybacking capsize its not fun, i'd suggest an attacking/blocking restriction

Return to existence
the ability is worded akwardly and without the dies part of the ability it's just rampant growth something white doesn't do id advise just taking the essence ability off if not just make the abilty part of the spell with out the keyword

Return to Form
i like but requires playtesting be very carefull because this could be abused very easily especially since the opponent usually wont be able to use it

Rising hope
look at glorious anthem now raise this cards mana to at least 4 and make it a rare

Savior of daerik
i dont like two creatures in white to have flash at common choose one or make this one uncommon also he looks like a knight

Sentinel of daerick
i like but the vigilance is uslee without the power just give him both at the same time then you save space allowing you to easily fit the reminder text for growth, reminder text should be on all of your mechanics unless there is just no space.

Terenal, lord of angels
at 10 mana make him return the angels to play also make it say other angels make his cost have more white in it and drop it to at most 8 look at Iona shield of emeria

Wall of belief
See healing soul

Blue

Spoiler:
Blasphemous creation
This is a green card blue doesn't get creatures nearly this strong ever

Crinturin, the ancient
costs way too much drop to seven total and make sure his ability says other dragons (this is how lord effects are worded) if you want hime to use his own ability reduce his base P/T

Cycle of lies
doesnt need to be everybody whispers of the muse costs 2 more (with buyback) and is only you and there is no discarding, i'd drop the mana or the everybody or the discard

Damping Mage
Hexproof and this is on the edge of too powerful for a common blue creature

Down the depths
Scry is not evergreen so it counts as a mechanic. too cheap to have island essence (i still dont like essence on non permanents) and it should be worded,

"Scry 2 (blah blah)
Look at the top card of your library, if its an instant card you may reveal it, if you do cast it without paying it's mana cost, otherwise put it into your hand."

or if you want to make it a draw

"Scry 2 (blah blah)
Look at the top card of your library, if its an instant card you may reveal it, if you do cast it without paying it's mana cost, otherwise put back on top of your library.
Draw a card"

Enlightening radiance
choose this or cycle of lies (i like the cycle better) this is just whispers of the muse and treasure trove

Excess energy
you could probobly drop the payment down to 2

Fake blame
worse version of peel from reality

Greedy mage
these effects are usually rare

Guided Artifice
Fabricate as an instant also they don't like tutors at instant

Hatchling of crinturin
Mahamoti Djinn is the same price and a 5/6 flyer and he's rare so this should be rare and also Blue does not get creatures this good

Hijacked mana
good card but fateseal is another mechanic and it is alot like scry i'd avoid putting them in the same set

Hopeful apprentice
it's a blue kobald woohoo

Hungry whale
hexproof

imagine
Trying to fix preordain are we?

Insignificant
im not sure this works rules wise ask a judge

Molding Worlds
another non permanent with essence and also this card is too powerful especially since blue does not mana ramp id say remove but otherwise drop to sorcery or make it cost 4 and either way it should cost 2 blues

Ocean dragon
maybe drop toughness down to 2 also the picture doesnt look like it flies but more importantly dragons are red blue gets drakes and dragons might spread to other colors but the would definatly stay rare.

Pull from creation
there is a reason they haven't done this look at inspiration you might get away with it if it cost UUU

Rainstorm
Very GREEN card

Sederin Sneak
the ability could cost 1

Sederin traveler
too similar to darting swordsman and blue creatures should not be better then white creatures change or remove one of them.

seer's glass
This will never be used for anything but to draw cards. the draw should be dropped to one card and the card down to rare. whatever you do don't leave it as is.

Selena blackburn
drop toughness down to 2 and if you want to keep the instant spell cost reduction remove the scry or drop it to scry 1 or raise her mana cost look at archivist and arcanis the omnipotent

Sent away
Boomerang is too good and you just made it better

Unformed
Cancel

i might come back and finish the rest of the colors

Mon, 2012-10-22 21:03
ShaggyInMemphis

Its an interesting idea. the lands are pretty good. The wording on a lot of the cards is not correct, but still a very good try.

Mon, 2012-10-22 21:03
ShaggyInMemphis

the symbol is great

Thu, 2013-03-07 05:07
Co-Swagster
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I have reviewed this set and compared it to my Wuatia Unleashed set, and this is by far one of the better custom sets around, in terms of artwork, abilities, originality, and decency. 4.99/5 stars.

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Sat, 2013-06-08 10:30
Roy Hankins

See, I really want to like this set. The keywords are well designed, and in general the thing is bursting with effort, from the flavor to the art to the characters. But it fails in one distinct and unfortunate way: the commons. You should be able to tell most things about a set from the commons. From the commons, I could see buyback, Growth (great idea, by the way), each color's big creature type, and the general large amount of wizards. But that's it. Until I decided to look at the Legendary's, I didn't know the other keywords existed. Any keyword in a set should be applicable through the commons. Many of the commons had too high a cost as well. It's still a good set, but these problems leave it with a definite 3/5 for me.

Sat, 2013-06-08 18:38
Sewn-Eye
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That's not necessarily true. You want major themes to be represented at common, and while those are often in the form of keywords, they aren't always.

There are several reasons to keyword something, but "being common" is not one of the them. Keywording a major theme means you should be seeing that keyword at common. Keywording a minor theme means you might not.

It made sense to keyword the miracle mechanic. There were 11 cards with the mechanic, it allowed for the altered cardframe, and it simultaneously gave the cards a name (Entreat the Angels is a miracle card, Angel's Mercy is not) and emphasized the fact that black had none of these special cards. But miracles didn't make sense at common, since miracles are, thematically, not common.

On the other hand, we've got Slivers. They were a very major theme of the Time Spiral block, yet that theme had no keyword. It would've been very easy to give them their own pseudo-keyword (or ability word) like this:

Spoiler:
Winged Sliver 1 mana symbolBlue mana symbol
Creature — Sliver Colorless mana symbol
Hiveform — All Sliver creatures have flying.
1/1
"Everything around here has cut a deal with gravity."
—Gerrard of the Weatherlight

Hiveform — All Sliver creatures get/have [bonus].

But that would've been unnecessary, because the Sliver cards themselves were all already so uniform that keywording their theme would've been redundant.

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Wed, 2013-07-24 02:23
MasterChafa

Subvert is an interesting ability. What about that ability on a hidra which costs XG? Oh, the set is done, forget it. Stick out your tongue

Fri, 2013-10-25 14:41
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Sat, 2013-10-26 07:17
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Tue, 2013-12-31 14:21
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Why cant we download it? im new to mse

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Tue, 2013-12-31 20:14
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Unfortunately, most (if not all) of the older featured sets aren't available to download. Sorry for the inconvenience.

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Sun, 2014-09-21 16:32
ThSeer

greedy mage, should it stand All spells cost 1 more to cast for each growth counter on Greedy Mage. and not All spells cost 1 (LESS?) to cast for each growth counter on Greedy Mage. i don't see the benefit with it when you need to pay one more to cast spells, however i c the benefit by having maybe your opponents to pay 1 more to cast their spells and not yours A happy smile

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Sat, 2016-07-09 01:28
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Language!

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Sat, 2016-07-09 01:29
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That was at you pang4!

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