New 'mini' set - Snow themed

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Fri, 2009-10-30 19:09
Nikeyeia
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New 'mini' set - Snow themed

Set name: Frostbite (May be changed)
This is a new set that bases of snow cards like thoose from coldsnap.
This set is gonna rely much on ice counters and snow permanents. However, there will still be some normal cards in it.
However, since the set has just started, i need a lot of feedback and ideas for it:

Spoiler:
-I need a set name. One that fits the theme. Current name is Frostbite, but it may be changed.
-I need ideas for how to use the ice counters in a new way.
-I need a new keyword that fits with snow permanents or ice counters.
-I need ideas for fractions. Mono or dual coloured.
The current fractions are:
Blue/Red
Black/Red/White
A mono-colored and a dual colored fraction is needed.

-And i just need feedback and/or card ideas :)

This set is gonna drive snow lands and such.
So... if anyone has some ideas for cards or any of thoose listed above, i would really like it.

Card previews:

Spoiler:
Black:
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Colorless:
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Green:
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Land:
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Basic Lands:
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Multicolor:
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Red:
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Blue:
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White:
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Changelog

Spoiler:
Edit~1: Reworked two of the preview cards.
Edit~2: Added two new cards/reworked Snowscape.
Edit~3: Added another three cards.
Edit~4: And three cards more.
Edit~5: More cards.
Edit~6: Added the first basic lands. Fullart!
Edit~7: All the snow colorless and snow land card now have the 'spectral' color. The Blizzard Sliver is back to original.
Edit~8: Crystal Asp reworked. Removed 'spectral' from the two snow artifacts.
Edit~9: Added Ronom Charger and reworked a lot of cards. Basic Land-cycle complete. Black is no longer a fraction.
Edit~10: Finally had time to reupload some cards. Black-Red-White is now a fraction.
Edit~11: Some cards updated.

Currently working on: Unnamed Snow-theme Set

Fri, 2009-10-30 19:29
Disposable Hero
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Hmm...

Well, Snowscape first. It really should be a snow version of Terramorphic Expanse, searching for a basic snow land. Aslo, it should be rewored as "Tap symbol: Add 1 mana symbol to your mana pool." This is because if it's produced by something that's snow, it can be used to pay for snow mana costs AND regular costs.
Arctic Rootwalla shouldn't have shroud. Rootwalla didn't, and neither did Basking Rootwalla.
Northern Kingdom works perfectly fine.
Finally, a name suggestion: Cryonyx.
-DH

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Fri, 2009-10-30 19:34
Nikeyeia
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Thanks for the feedback. Im

Thanks for the feedback. Im gonna fix this.
However, i want the rootwalla to do something more than the other rootwallas, and shroud was what first came to my mind.

Currently working on: Unnamed Snow-theme Set

Fri, 2009-10-30 20:01
Shiv2503
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Snowscape is strictly worse

Snowscape is strictly worse then Terramorphic Expanse, They both search for basic lands but Snowscape can only search for Snow lands.

Fri, 2009-10-30 20:14
Nikeyeia
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Fixed now. I decided to give

Fixed now. I decided to give it a T: Add 1 to your mana pool.
Also added two new cards A happy smile

Currently working on: Unnamed Snow-theme Set

Fri, 2009-10-30 20:20
Silver Chocobo
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true, but it is possble to

true, but it is possble to use both
everything needs dragons

Frozen hellkite 3 mana symbolSnow mana symbolSnow mana symbolRed mana symbol

creature - dragon
when ever ~ deal damage to a creature put frost counter onto it
when ever ~ deals combat damage x damage to each creature with a frost counter on it, where X is the number of frost counters on it
3/5

Dood

Sat, 2009-11-07 11:33
Nikeyeia
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Here is a dragon, based of

Here is a dragon, based of Silver Chocobo idea:

Spoiler:

One of the fractions is gonna be Blue-Red.
I still need a lot of feedback on this project A happy smile

Currently working on: Unnamed Snow-theme Set

Sat, 2009-11-07 19:58
Silver Chocobo
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now thinking about it Frozen

now thinking about it Frozen Hellkite would probalbe be better as a snow creatre. and i love the art
blue/black eh

Frozen plague bearer A 2/B hybrid mana symbol.Snow mana symbol

Snow creature - Zombie

As long as you pay Blue mana symbolBlue mana symbol to cast ~ it has flash
if you pay Blue mana symbolBlue mana symbol to cast ~ put a +1/+1 and it is blue adsitional to it's other colours
2/2
possible cycle to go with that

Dood

Sat, 2009-11-07 21:46
Nikeyeia
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Also a good idea, however

Also a good idea, however there wont be any fraction that are blue/black.
The fractions are, for now, Mono Black, Red/Blue, another double and another triple colored.
Im gonna change the Hellkite to snow right away.

Currently working on: Unnamed Snow-theme Set

Sat, 2009-11-07 23:06
copapoc
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you would love to have each

you would love to have each color have the same "amount of intrest"
ex: a set has all of his fractions colide with Black, resulting in a White/black mana symbol faction, Blue/black mana symbol faction, Black mana symbol faction, Black/red mana symbol faction and a Black/green mana symbol faction. this would make a verry "Black" heavy set with a layout like this

(White mana symbol=1)(Blue mana symbol=1)(Black mana symbol=5)(Red mana symbol=1)(Green mana symbol=1), counting the amount of factions containing the color.

for yours this woul result in:

(White mana symbol=0)(Blue mana symbol=1)(Black mana symbol=1)(Red mana symbol=1)(Green mana symbol=0)

adding 5 colors will not be able to solve the balance ==> 2 choises apear ! go with Green/wite mana symbol for the last faction and choose ! wil i ad another layer of 5 colors ? robably ? yeah. in this case maybe add a 2 color faction and a 3 color faction of your choise ! i myself woul love Green/blue mana symbol, resulting in an White mana symbolBlack mana symbolRed mana symbol opposing faction, but the choise is up to you.

anywayz.
-grtz cop.

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Sun, 2009-11-08 22:28
Silver Chocobo
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i was thinking of b/u which

i was thinking of b/u which is what i did a blue creature a had an effect if you payed two red, then a red and green, green and white and finaly white and black
Possible just factionlees creatures (not all the cards in a set need a faction in a set do they)

Dood

Wed, 2009-11-11 08:25
Shadowkirby
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This is a really cool set so

This is a really cool set so far. I like your spoiler cards. A happy smile nice work!

';..;'

Wed, 2009-11-11 09:54
ocb777
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Suggestions: Snowscape

Suggestions:
Snowscape should search your deck for ANY snow land. not just basic.

Arctic Panorama
Snow Land
Tap symbol, Sacrafice Arctic Panorama: Search your deck for a Snow-covered Plains, Snow-covered Island, Snow-covered Swamp, Snow-covered Mountian, and Snow-covered Forest. Put the chosen cards in your hand. Shuffle your deck.

Frost Sliver Snow mana symbolSnow mana symbol
Snow Creature - Sliver
All Slivers have "Snow mana symbol, Tap symbol: Target creature cannot attack or block this turn."
2/2

Thaw WUBRG
Sorcery
All cards from Ice Age, Alliances, Coldsnap, and __________ are tapped and do not untap during their controllers next untap step.

Ideas for set Title: Frozen Wastelands, Ice Hunt, Sudden Chill, Ten Below, The Big Chill. (and even if you don't let them for the set title, they might make decent card titles.

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Wed, 2009-11-11 18:59
Hawkeye
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You could call this set

You could call this set 'Frostbite".

Sat, 2009-11-14 08:20
Nikeyeia
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I like snowscape as it is,

I like snowscape as it is, and i don't think it should be changed.
The Arctic Panorama would be one of the most overpowered land cards, since a five colored deck could just use basic snow lands, and get a really fast domain by doing that.
I think the Frost Sliver is good, and i think of making one if i can find a good art.
Thaw is also good. I like the "Expansion Matters".
All the title name ideas fits better as card names, so mabye i am gonna use a pair of them.

~Hawkeye: That is also a really good name. However, i want to wait a bit before setting the set name.
~ShadowKirby: Thanks. Nothing more to say Stick out your tongue

Currently working on: Unnamed Snow-theme Set

Wed, 2009-11-25 18:05
Nikeyeia
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*BUMP!* Well, this project

*BUMP!*

Well, this project ain't closed, so i would like if someone commented on it Stick out your tongue
I've just uploaded the first two basic lands.

Currently working on: Unnamed Snow-theme Set

Wed, 2009-11-25 18:58
Powerrox93
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The art for the cards is

The art for the cards is just amazing! A happy smile

Wed, 2009-11-25 20:37
Nikeyeia
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I also spend the most time

I also spend the most time on finding the art for the cards.

I've just remade all the colorless snow cards with new Trim color Stick out your tongue

Currently working on: Unnamed Snow-theme Set

Thu, 2009-11-26 05:57
Joz
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The little blue U drop, is

The little blue U drop, is broken.

awsomely broken.


U - B/U - R - R/U : I am the man in the middle inducing migranes and burning away at your life everday.

Thu, 2009-11-26 13:39
Nikeyeia
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@Joz: D: i also thought

@Joz: D: i also thought so.
Tell me if it is better now.

Currently working on: Unnamed Snow-theme Set

Mon, 2009-12-07 14:50
Nikeyeia
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Bumped again. I don't really

Bumped again.
I don't really get any futher with the set, when i dont get feedback.

I thought of a cycle with lands for the fractions. Waddaya think about that?

CARDNAME
Land
As ~ enters the battlefield, you may exile a red or blue card from your hand. If you don't, ~ enters the battlefield tapped.
T: Add Red mana symbol or Blue mana symbol to your mana pool.

Currently working on: Unnamed Snow-theme Set

Sat, 2009-12-12 17:44
Guitarweeps

The lands are pretty good. I

The lands are pretty good. I am not sure that you need to go with exile. I think discard will work like with Mox Diamond. Yes, it will encourage reanimate, dredge, threshold, madness, etc; but they already have decent discard outlets anyways.

Alpha Wolf is cool.
Boreal Acylote - Hard to judge this without knowing the other cards that use the counters.
Ronom Charger - Should probably destroy enchantments for a mono-white card.
Crystal Asp - Feels like a green or white card being a strong aggro 1-drop.
Iceberg Devourer - Cool, but hard to tell if it is overpowered without playtest. Probably isn't.
Frost Storm - Just make sure there are enough non-snow creatures in the set to make this relevant.
Artic Rootwalla - I think shroud can fit this at 1 mana symbolGreen mana symbol. Just because the other Rootwalas don't have shroud doesn't mean this one can't.
Massive Growth - I really like this card. Cool stuff going on right there.
Death Mauler - Big, dumb, trampling green brute? Sounds about right.
Blizzard Sliver - It works.
Coldsteel Core - Be careful how many only snow cards you make. You want the set to interact with the rest of Magic or it will just end up sucking. Kind of like Coldsnap...
Crystal Lotus - Same as I said above... Other than that, hard to judge without seeing the cards that cost snow mana to cast.
Ring of the Gods - Above again... Other than that, pretty cool. This could work without the snow limitation if it enters tapped.
Snowscape - Comparitively better the it's non-snow counterpart. I would cost it 1 mana symbol to search.
Northern Kingdom - Hard to say if it is cool without the other cards. Should work though.
Frozen Hellkite - Cool, but how is this frozen?
Stream Thaw - Using set names in the text. Hmmm....

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Wed, 2009-12-16 20:09
Nikeyeia
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@Guitarweeps: About your

@Guitarweeps: About your comment, i think that the lands should use discard too. (I didnt thought about it myself until now.) They might be too weak if they use exile.

~Boreal Acolyte: I want some more cards that use ice counters, but i dont really get any ideas... D:
~Ronom Charger: If you see Ronom Unicorn from the Coldsnap set, it destroys enchantments. This card is inspired of Ronom Unicorn and Disenchant.
~Crystal Asp: I thought of changing it to green. Actually, i thought of creating green as the mono-colored fraction. (I love mono-green aggro with rancor :3)
~Iceberg Devourer: Originally, this didn't have shroud. I found the awesome art, and just had to make a card of it. I added shroud, since it would be pretty bad with one of thoose, and then a doom blade. ^^
~Frost Storm: I want to have about 50/50 snow/nonsnow card. I just haven't created so many of the nonsnow yet.
Arctic Rootwalla: Im keeping it as it is. Basking Rootwalla have always been a favorite for me, and by changing the cost to snow instead, it seems cool for me.
~Coldsteel Core: I like it, but i might think it would be too strong if you play draft or sealed with this set.
~Crystal Lotus: Im not sure about this one. Originally, it costed [S], but i realized it was worse than Dark Ritual. And this one was Rare.
~Ring of the Gods: Ill think about it...
~Snowscape: Ill change it when i got the time.
~Northern Kingdom: As i said, i just want to create more cards that use ice counters.
~Frozen Hellkite: ...Look at its art. D: I think i will change the manacost to something more snow-ish...
~Stream Thraw: Back to good ol' days. A happy smile

Currently working on: Unnamed Snow-theme Set

Fri, 2009-12-18 10:57
Xargon
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Umm, I disagree. They should

Umm, I disagree. They should definately exile, discard would be ridiculously powerful for deredge style decks, one of their greatest problems is an opening hand without outlets, there's no way wizards would print lands that gave them that. Especially as Forsaken Mountain is a mountain, meaning you could run the single one and tutor it up with a Salding Tarn or Bloodstained Mire!

Also, I generally dislike lands that make you lose card advantage, the drawback seems overly harsh. That mountain springs to mind again, you have to lose a card and lose life! Compared to Murmuring Bosk, it just seems terrible. Love the art though.

And again: Forsaken Mountain looks like it should be a snow land, as does paradise lake. That may balance out their drawback slightly.

The art on that island is phenomenal, could you please tell me where you found it?

I take it the mana from Crystal Lotus is only supposed to pay for [symbol]S[/symbol] activations and not colourless mana.

Snowscape for constructed purposes is simply far better than terramorphic expanse. Not sure how to change it though with reverting to your original design which obviously makes it weaker in limited. Not unplayable but definately weaker.

I'm not sure I like Steam Thaw, to me it looks like it should just effect snow permanents.

I'm unsure why Iceberg Devourer is legendary. It doesn't have a name, and it seems like there could be more than one of its species, although they may be rare.

Tundra Instigator ability scream 'green' to me. Although wizards did print Kor Cartographer so I guess white can do anything.

All your artwork is really beautiful and very fitting to the cards. Well done.

I like the sliver, sliveryness, ssss.

Hope this feedback helps and isn't too criticle, I typed this rather fast. A happy smile

Xargon

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the good and the bad.*

Fri, 2009-12-18 13:49
Nikeyeia
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Thank for the comment. I

Thank for the comment.
I will make the land cycle snow lands instead. I got the idea to Forsaken mountain from Murmuring Bosk too, and Murmuring Bosk is one of my favorite lands.

The art for the Island i found somewhere on google... Mmh... Here it is: http://media.photobucket.com/image/fantasy42/mysticalmoon_2006/Fantasy/Fantasy/fantasy42.jpg

Steam Thaw: ...Good idea. Ill change it.

Iceberg Devourer is getting changed...

Tundra Instigator have already been maked in green, at the form of Elvish Pioneer, but i like the card pretty much.

Currently working on: Unnamed Snow-theme Set

Fri, 2009-12-18 15:04
Pichoro
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The wording for Crystal

The wording for Crystal Lotus would be "T, Sacrifice ~: Add 3 to your mana pool." The reason? You can't add Snow mana symbol to your mana pool, just like you can't add Red/green mana symbol. Like hybrid symbols, Snow mana symbol is only a representation of a cost, and to pay it, you pay any mana from a snow permanent (or spell if you expand to have snow instants and snow sorceries). So since Crystal Lotus is a Snow Artifact, the 3 will be able to pay Snow mana symbolSnow mana symbolSnow mana symbol. Hope that makes sense. A happy smile

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Sat, 2009-12-19 08:03
Nikeyeia
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Allright, i got it. ": Add

Allright, i got it.
"Tap symbol: Add 3 mana symbol to your mana pool. Use this mana only to play snow spells or activated abilities of snow permanents."

Currently working on: Unnamed Snow-theme Set

Mon, 2009-12-21 16:56
Progenitus 2
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I love your preview cards!

I love your preview cards! Great art, and they fit your theme.

However, I am worrying about your Slivers. You know you just can't have 1 Sliver card in your set; then it would be useless to have a Sliver if there is only one. If you are preparing to create Snow Slivers, prepare to make a brood of them, so they can be used. Or, another approach, make a few Sliver cards and then a Hivestone-like artifact that turns all of your creatures into Slivers, so their effects matter.

Where is this taking place, btw? Slivers only appeared on Dominaria and Rath (on a technical standpoint. I'm giving you a hard time, I know, so I apologize in advance).

I'm not trying to scare you from creating Snow Slivers; just be prepared to make a swarm.

A Snow Sliver Queen, perhaps??

-Pro2

Tue, 2009-12-22 10:52
Nikeyeia
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Where it is taking place? On

Where it is taking place? On my computer.
Lawl, i really dont know yet. I hate making storylines.

I guess there is gonna be mabye 4-5 slivers in this set. And i could make a Hivestone artifact... Hmm...

Currently working on: Unnamed Snow-theme Set

Tue, 2009-12-22 15:22
Pichoro
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Making a location really

Making a location really helps. I mean, I don't go out and write a novel or anything, but just a little bit of world-building goes a long long way. It gives you locations and groups to name things after, and helps direct you for other flavor bits.

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