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Tue, 2017-05-02 23:22
ZephyrPhantom
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I think higher cost always wins out so it'd be cmc 1.

@Mahx - Honestly the effect is weak enough that I can see it in colorless.


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Mon, 2017-05-08 02:58
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Wed, 2017-05-03 01:58
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Even if it's draft only I don't think requiring two dedicated keywords just to make use of Anomalies us very feasiable.


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Wed, 2017-05-03 02:56
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Here's a card design that's been sitting around in my miscellaneous ideas set file...

Delusion Bug
Black color identity Creature - Insect Nightmare Common
Whenever an opponent discards a card, you may pay Black mana symbol and reveal Delusion Bug from your hand. If you do, put it onto the battlefield tapped.
The slightest doubt is all it needs to get through.
3/2

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Wed, 2017-05-03 04:03
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@Robot_Face: The CMC of split cards is now determined by totalling each of the card's halves.

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Wed, 2017-05-03 05:40
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Wed, 2017-05-03 06:24
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Something stupid for this one...

Unstable Drone 0 mana symbol
Artifact Creature-Construct Uncommon
Flying
When ~ enters the battlefield, if you cast it from your hand, sacrifice it.
2/2

Step: zero to one

Blue/black mana symbol <3 Blue/black mana symbol

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Fri, 2017-05-05 10:32
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@ZephyrPhantom, @sdfkjgh
Thanks for feedback!
I did have a backup entry that might actually be a little bit stronger, but I was strugeling to find good flavor and art for it, so I scrapped it:

Not an entry wrote:
Gradual Growt 0 mana symbol
Green color identityEnchantment - Aura Uncommon
Flash
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature gets +1/+1.


@sdfkjgh
I really like your entry. Wery powerfull!
A little bit creapy art, though...

@ZephyrPhantom
Interresting, a free eldrazi spawn!. Though I think sacrificing it would be sufficient. That would also make it a funny combo with Pawn of Ulamog

@Robot_Face, @ZephyrPhantom
Yes, Phyrexian Colorless Mana = 1 and A 2/W hybrid mana symbol. = 2, X mana symbol = 0 and split cards have the sum of both sides. Does the same go for Aftermath?


Of course, my flavor and art for Dyed in My Colors isn't that good either... For some reason, the first thing that came to mind when thinkin of it, was a Vocaloid song... (Again)
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Wed, 2017-05-03 12:24
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@Kajarak32 Missing blue color indicator since it doesn't have a mana symbol in casting cost. I don't think putting a cap on "X" really does anything, you are paying 6 mana symbolBlue mana symbol to cast a spell from your hand. anyways pretty sure this is proper wording:
Suspend Blue mana symbol -- 6
When you suspend ~ you may pay X mana symbol. If you do, remove X mana symbol time counters from it.

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Wed, 2017-05-03 12:40
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Finally came up with a fun design. It is based on a card I had used previously (though it didn't win) with some modifications, so hopefully that's allowed.

Spell Components

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Spell Components 0 mana symbol
Instant - Arcane Uncommon
Buyback 2 mana symbol (You may pay an additional 2 as you cast this spell. If you do, put this card into your hand as it resolves.)
“No, no, not like that. Do it again!”

Wed, 2017-05-03 13:41
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@Inverness
Cool! It's the "splice me, please" spell

Wed, 2017-05-03 14:03
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It's also an infinite storm count with Desperate Ritual and any cost reducer. It's an infinite mana combo with Desperate Ritual and Pyromancer's Ascension.

Wed, 2017-05-03 14:36
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@Windy: Y'see. I was going to say it's an infinite combo with Memory Crystal, but that works too.

Wed, 2017-05-03 16:06
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@Mahx - I've considered it, but I want to avoid the possibility that some kind of reanimator combo would break it to go infinite. Exiling also does a better job of emulating a token ceasing to exist when sacrificed.


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Wed, 2017-05-03 19:10
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@MadLuckKingg: Thank you for the comment! I wish that I could not put a cap on the X, but since a card that is suspended with 0 time counters on it is basically just perma-exiled, it feels wrong not to put a cap on it. I may take your wording/formatting idea of separating the X ability though, so thank you for that idea. Lastly, I would love to add a color indicator, but as I am currently without a computer, I haven't been able to use the wonderful MSE program to create my cards. I still like creating cards and entering these contests though, so I found a site that I can use through mobile. Again, thanks for your help!

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@All: Updated entry on page 1 to make it more easily understood and fix formatting issues.

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Wed, 2017-05-03 21:46
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I wasn't talking about a split card, I was talking about a hybrid mana symbol that can be paid with either 0 mana symbol or Red mana symbol. I ended up not using that, though, so whether or not it's cmc 0 doesn't really matter.

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Wed, 2017-05-03 22:30
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I meant hybrid mana.


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Thu, 2017-05-04 00:38
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What else would cost 0?

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Thu, 2017-05-04 02:15
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It's a "uni" cycle mate shouldn't it cost 1 mana symbol? Stick out your tongue


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Thu, 2017-05-04 03:39
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It's a unicycle but what do wheels look like? That's right, 0 mana symbol. You only have to squint, close your eyes, and imagine it.

Just let me have this

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Thu, 2017-05-04 04:00
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@Wapulatus: No opinion.

@sdfkjgh: It is a nice card. Although, I don't think it will ever be played the way you intended it to be. Friends with Trinispheres...

@Gorgonzola: This is significantly more powerful than Simian Spirit Guide, even if it would only produce Red mana symbol, since it counts as casting a spell. (For various purpose, Storm comes to mind.) And it goes into graveyard for free flashback for Past in Flames too.

@TheBrokenUrn: Knowing Chrome Mox, the card could probabaly gone with cost of Bounty of the Hunt.

@Asthanius: No opinion.

@jacqui-pup: Perilous Vault, isn't that great. Sure. But allowing to repeat is probably evne more powerful than O-stone.

@grishnax: no opinion.

@Mahx Michael: Considering Prismatic Lace and Scuttlemutt is considered pretty lackluster, This could actually have kicker for 1 mana symbol with casting cost of 0 mana symbol.

Thu, 2017-05-04 07:14
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@Robot_Face
Well, there dosn't exist any 0/R hybrid mana, now does it? The reason is simply because there would be no point in paying Red mana symbol if you could choose not to, and optional mana is usually presented with X mana symbol. If they wanted the X mana symbol to be red only, the would just write something like "X can only be payed with Red mana symbol" on card.
Also the reason why Phyrexian Colorless Mana has cmc 1 is because you can't count paying life as a part of the mana cost, it is an optional aditional cost.
Actually, the mana cost 1 mana symbolPhyrexian Black ManaPhyrexian Black Mana is actually 1 mana symbolBlack mana symbolBlack mana symbol, with an rulestext that says "For each black mana in this spell's mana cost, you may instead pay 2 life. It is also written on every printed card containing phyrexian mana!


@Kagerowrs
In other words, you're saying that making a permanent colorless for 0 mana symbol is to low of a cost?

Thu, 2017-05-04 07:31
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@Gurfle: Holy buskers, Batman! Now THAT is interesting! I'll just leave this here: http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&power=+=[0]&tough=+!=[0]

@Kagerows: I see it as another in a very long line of Johnny cards that asks "What can you do with this?" No preconceived way I "intended it to be" cast intended (heh). As for the sphere, it doesn't work that way, as X is determined by the number of spells cast this turn.

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Thu, 2017-05-04 09:49
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@sdfkjgh: True, I misread the text, Although to be honest, I think making it interactable that way isn't going to be that bad.

Sun, 2017-05-07 19:08
NemaAkos

Self-implanted Memory 0 mana symbol
Sorcery Rare
As an additional cost to cast Self-implanted Memory, reveal an Island from your hand.
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, if Self-implanted Memory is in your graveyard, it becomes a copy of that card until end of turn.
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Thu, 2017-05-04 16:27
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@NemaAkos
Why does your entry say "copy of that spell in your graveyard until end of turn"? The graveyard part hurts my mind and is probably redundant.

Thu, 2017-05-04 18:09
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@Mahx Michael
The idea is that if self-implanted memory is in your graveyard, than it becomes the copy of the spell you just cast. (It's supposed to work with cards like rune snag, galvanic bombardment and take inventory.) As far as I know, the ability must explicitly reference the graveyard to work as intended.

Maybe this wording would be clearer:
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, if Self-implanted Memory is in your graveyard, it becomes a copy of that card until end of turn.

Thu, 2017-05-04 18:17
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Is the intent to copy Flashback/Aftermath spells with Self Implanted Memory? It does work on paper but I'm a little worried it's a bit of a headache to process especially at common. Might be more suited to Uncommon or even Rare due to how specific it is.


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Thu, 2017-05-04 19:56
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Thu, 2017-05-04 19:57
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Before you had Remove a counter as a cost and in the effect so it would remove two.

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Fri, 2017-05-05 10:37
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@NemaAkos
Ok, so the spell is supposed to be cast from your graveyard? What your prevous wording said "While ~ is in your hand, whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, ~ becomes a copy of that spell for as long as that spell is in your graveyard". Teknically speaking of course.
Also, wouldn't the card be worthless if it has to be cast from your graveyard, and didn't have a flashback ability itself? Is there even a spell that gives all spells in graveyards flashback? (There is a plane at least, but you can't build your entire deck around a single plane.)

EDIT: And also, each card you where reffering to had an increasing effect for each time they had been cast (each copy in the graveyard), they never said they where supposed to be cast from the graveyard...

Fri, 2017-05-05 13:46
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@Vulgard: You know this is a thing, right?

@Mahx: Past in Flames

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Fri, 2017-05-05 14:26
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@sdfkjgh
Yeah, I thought there would be at least one. But still building a deck around one card is not very efficient (trust me I've tried)! Theres like 6.7% chance it will ever work...

Fri, 2017-05-05 20:16
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@Mahx: actually, there are several high-tier Past in Flames decks; however, a large majority of them utilize the storm mechanic, so I'm not sure if you'd be willing to count them.

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Sat, 2017-05-06 02:43
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Sat, 2017-05-06 17:57
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Example of Brilliance
Blue color identity Instant Rare
Showoff Blue mana symbol (If an effect has you reveal this card, you may cast it for its showoff cost.)
Draw 2 cards.

An Ancestral Recall variant, as dangerous as that might be to try. (Is this too powerful?)

EDIT: Dropped the card number to 2, that way in the case of using it against Thoughtseize or other reveal-discard cards, at best you're getting a gain of 1 card.

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Sat, 2017-05-06 03:28
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@Vulgard: Hm. This is a very clean design that has the slight misfortune of being a very bad card. This is outclassed by both Pentad Prism unless you're casting it for three or more mana in which case it's a fidgety Manalith. This would feel much nicer on a body, which isn't feasible at CMC0.

@Angelic_Bovines: Honestly this ought to be draw two cards; it doesn't function as a sac engine and the equip cost is high enough and the card does so little otherwise that's probably the coolest fix

@Vunik: Between this and spazlaz's original design that's a lot of cards that are useless unless they're degenerate. For reference, drawing three cards in response to a Thoughtseize is pretty good.

@spazlaz: Speaking of, what the heck am I looking at?

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Sat, 2017-05-06 03:57
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@Vunik, cards that work with this are,
Scent of Brine, Liar's Pendulum, Retraced Image, Martyr of Frost and Magus of the Scroll as well reveal discard cards that target any player, Cabal Therapy, Mire's Toll, Inquisition of Kozilek and Blackmail.

It likely doesn't make it too strong its just worth mentioning.

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Sat, 2017-05-06 04:06
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@jacqui-pup We've seen Phyresis as a way to grant infect and nothing else for 2 mana. All the peripheral benefits - costing no coloured mana, being able to be moved around, lacking the card disadvantage of an aura, on top of the metalcraft that the card itself contributes to - are, in my opinion, already enough for the 1-mana increase over Phyresis. The card is better thought of as an infect-granter with combo potential than a combo piece with incidental infect.

Sat, 2017-05-06 04:56
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@jacqui-pup & @bazzboda - I actually completely spaced reveal-discard spells when designing this. I will tweak a few numbers on it for sure.

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Sat, 2017-05-06 09:05
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Mon, 2017-05-08 03:44
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Thanks for feedback all. :)

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Sat, 2017-05-06 12:22
Mahx Michael
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@NemaAkos
Wow, I'm so slow! Now I finally realized the concept of your card...
So the thing is, your never supposed to achieve anything by casting the spell in the first place. The point with the card is when you cast spells that are affected by the number of spells with the same name/type in your graveyard such as Take Inventory, these will count as well, and the number will increase! Eight cards for 1 mana symbolBlue mana symbol? Yes, thank you very much!

Sat, 2017-05-06 14:09
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@Pixi-Rex
Why not just have "sacrifice Coffin of Embalm" as part of the cost of the ability?

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Sat, 2017-05-06 16:41
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@Robot_Face: You are right. its after a hour of wording and rewording the card. So I totaly mised that. I will fix that. Thank you. A happy smile

Sat, 2017-05-06 16:45
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@Ziolang: now THAT'S a Johnny's paradise card! You got my vote.

@Pixi: The name is a little too on-the-nose. Perhaps change it to Embalmer's Sarcophagus?

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Sat, 2017-05-06 17:25
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@Ziolang: Really cool design, but I'm not seeing why it should be an artifact creature. The abilities could pretty much all fit in white, although haste would be a little outside the color norms. Also, since the art doesn't show any wings, flying seems a little weird maybe.

Sat, 2017-05-06 17:48
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@Pixi-Rex I like the card (I like giving things Embalm in the yard, it seems fun), but may I suggest a name change? "Coffin of Embalm" sounds sort of awkward. With the wording change you mentioned, I don't know if the name will be changed, but I'd suggest something like "Coffin of Embalming" or "Embalming Coffin" or something similar to that-- the english language is weird because there's four ways to say the same thing, I know, but that's my two cents there.

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Sat, 2017-05-06 18:13
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@Pixi-Rex, I agree with the name and saccing as a cost comments.
However I think you could possibly change the card text to
"X mana symbol sacrifice ~: Embalm a creature card in your graveyard with a converted mana cost of X. (Exile that card and create a token that’s a copy of it, except it’s white, has no mana cost, and is a Zombie in addition to its other types.)"
that way if cards that care if you embalm a creature come out this counts towards that.

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Sat, 2017-05-06 23:51
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@Robot_Face: You are right. its after a hour of wording and rewording the card. So I totaly mised that. I will fix that. Thank you. A happy smile