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Mon, 2017-03-20 20:08
fluffyDeathbringer
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- Praterburgh Persecutor should say "you draw a card and [you] lose 1 life" as per Glint-Sleeve Siphoner.

- Harmonious Witness' buff condition should be "as long as" and not "if", like it is in Youthful Visionaerie.

- Soul Siphon should be worded "Destroy target creature with power 3 or less." going off Wrangle and Skywhaler's Shot. If you were thinking of Fatal Push, I think it has that wording because it changes the limit cap if you have revolt, whereas Soul Siphon doesn't. Could be wrong, though.

Overall, the mechanics are nice and I like them.

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Mon, 2017-03-20 20:20
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@Soul Siphon: technically, fluffy is correct. Fatal Push is worded that way because it has two different limits.

But if mario was trying to create a spell you could cast on any creature, then he's got it worded correctly. See Nix- you can still target any card just because

Mon, 2017-03-20 20:36
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Mount and subjugate feel odd to have in the same set. Artifact mana is interesting although I feel that just using the colorless symbol would do the same thing like 90% of the time especially in your block's format.

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Mon, 2017-03-20 21:56
jacqui-pup
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Weird mechanics imo. Subjugate and mount do feel redundant. Also LOL no @ Basic Artifact Land.

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Mon, 2017-03-20 22:08
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Concord is also already a mechanic name in Stratopol, if that's a thing you care about. Both are pseudos, though, so it shouldn't be too much of a pain.

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Mon, 2017-03-20 22:17
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@fluffy: text = fixed. Soul Siphon is intended to work the way Sakon noted, and can target anything.

Mount and Subjugate are in the set together to very clearly show how the wildlife and mechanized mounts are interested in working together while the more organized cities are interested in working against you. The multiple pairs across the field both horizontally and vertically is very purposeful.

Basic Artifact Land stays by popular demand

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Tue, 2017-03-21 02:19
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I'm guessing you want Bramble Stag to be an Elk, not an Elf?

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Tue, 2017-03-21 04:48
marioware2
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See, this is why I should always update renders. I actually caught that just yesterday, but yeah - Bramble Stag is an ElK, not an ElF. Thanks for the catch either way. A happy smile

Edit: Also of note: Artifact mana is explicitly different from colorless mana so that things like Mox Pearl and Silver Myr can be used to create it. On the surface it seems similar, but it is actually functionally quite different.

Tue, 2017-03-21 09:39
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Fwiw I'm okay with Basic Artifact Land staying but due to affinity's existence I think I can safely say it's basically soft-locked to Limited/Mario Standard/possibly MSEM.


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Tue, 2017-03-21 11:04
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Hello metalcraft's new favorite land.


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Tue, 2017-03-21 15:49
jacqui-pup
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Mario where is reminder text on artifact mana?

Also you realize that giving a creature with deathtouch a ping ability is !!!!!

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Tue, 2017-03-21 23:45
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Minor note, I love how the set code is RIP. Like all our dreams of contraptions.

Also, wouldn't Artifact Lands make enabling Concord a lot easier?

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Wed, 2017-03-22 00:39
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Yeah I am not really on board with basic artifact lands. Too much craziness. I could see a nonbasic version though.

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Wed, 2017-03-22 00:50
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also it dies instantly to Splinter, Echoing Ruin

It works way too well with Metalcraft and similar effects.

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Mon, 2017-03-27 20:39
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@jacqui: I've added artifact mana reminder text to commons and uncommons, on par with what they did with snow mana. Thanks for the catch! As for the pinger, I realize it's has the potential to be a huge threat, but you have to jump through MANY hoops to get it there and I don't expect it to end up being as overwhelming as it looks due to the number of artifact creatures in the format and the difficulty in finding artifact mana. I'm considering making it sacrifice itself as well though.

@everyone: Through a rare stroke of common sense, I've made Scrapyard nonbasic. Let's forget that ever happened and move on with our lives! Good catch, by the way - Artifact Lands do help enable Concord quite a bit.


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Mon, 2017-03-27 20:51
thehuw
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I'm loving the Sterling sisters! I am not loving Aether Bribe so much, but cards that interact exclusively and specifically with planeswalkers are a pet peeve of mine, so that may be personal bias talking.

Seldanna's +1 is superbly designed, but it might be a little on the strong side - it'll usually "draw" you two or three cards, and digs pretty deep - but on a five-mana walker that can't protect herself, that's probably alright.

I don't like how often Erratic Invocation will whiff on at least one component. The unreliability in that respect makes it feel not quite mythic, in my opinion; it's gonna be especially feel-bad if you hit a land for a mode you wanted and a big nonland card for the planeswalker/fortress mode (nice job calling out fortresses too, by the way) against a board with none of either.

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Mon, 2017-03-27 21:07
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Aether Bribe...wow. Love that flavor text too lol.
Maricia Sterling - "Hunk" lol awesome. Loving this. Deathtouch AND trample!!! crazy...
Seldanna - Wow she murders planeswalkers. That +1 seems nuts for a walker that is CMC 5
Erratic Behavior - Cool concept. Seems rare though. Oh, hey there fortress...

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Tue, 2017-03-28 01:03
ThisisSakon
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Not sure how much I like a "-2 Loyalty: Destroy target land" on a walker that starts with {4}... That's two turns of land destruction, or a complete lockout on decks with multiple colors

Tue, 2017-03-28 01:12
marioware2
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Yeah that should, uh. Not be doing that. I'm adding in "nonland"

Tue, 2017-03-28 02:24
jacqui-pup
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Alternately, make it a -3?

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Tue, 2017-03-28 05:10
fluffyDeathbringer
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Seldanna's +1 should be worded like the new PW deck Ajani's +2: i.e. "and the rest" instead of ", then put the rest". It would also shorten the text, which direly needs shortening.

And Erratic Invocation: it's "this way" not "in this way". Proof.

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Fri, 2017-07-07 14:55
LazyBlackGuy

Jesus, that set name! lol NICE!

Fri, 2017-07-07 16:31
MysticalOctopus
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You bumped a four-month old thread to say that? What a waste of a necro.

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Fri, 2017-07-07 16:40
marioware2
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Well, it did serve as a reminder that I never released this set file - though this set is currently on hiatus, as I attempt to fix the mechanics in a way that makes them less... horrific to look at. (Assemble being an outlier.)