Card of the Week Contest #153: Kick Me!

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Wed, 2017-02-01 07:03
Flo00
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@Mahx: Id idn't want it to cost as much as Griptide when kicked. The chioce to kick it or not costs you 1 mana so to say.

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Furthermore, I consider that Carthage must be destroyed.

Wed, 2017-02-01 09:29
finofashark
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Might be able to get a render but been ill this week.

Subsiding Knowledge Blue mana symbol
Sorcery Mythic Rare
Kicker - Sacrifice a creature
Draw a card, if ~ was kicked draw three cards instead.

Thu, 2017-02-02 05:21
Leviathan

Abrogate 1 mana symbolBlue mana symbol
Instant Rare
Kicker—Exile a blue card from your hand.
Counter target nonpermanent spell, loyalty ability, or activated ability. (Mana abilities can't be targeted.)
If Abrogate was kicked, gain control of that spell or ability instead. You may choose new targets for it.

old entry
Abrogate 1 mana symbolBlue mana symbolBlue mana symbol
Instant Rare
Kicker—Exile two blue cards from your hand.
Counter target noncreature spell or activated ability. (Mana abilities can't be targeted.)
If Abrogate was kicked, gain control of that spell or ability instead. You may choose new targets for it.
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Wed, 2017-02-01 10:33
elmdor
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Some kind of assassin 1 mana symbolBlack mana symbol
Creature -- Human Assassin Common
Kicker 1 mana symbolGreen mana symbol
Deathtouch
When CARDNAME enters the battlefield, if it was kicked, you may have it fight another target creature.
1/2

Will add card art and a real name as soon as possible.

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Wed, 2017-02-01 10:48
thehuw
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Comprehensively rebalanced my entry.

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Wed, 2017-02-01 11:45
Mahx Michael
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@Flo00
I'm not sure if I understood your comment correctly: Are you saying the multikicker cost should be 1 mana symbol or White mana symbol?


@Leviathan
Your cost is rather high, I suppose. Disallow has the same cost and lets you counter any spell or ability. If you choose to keep the mana cost as it is, I recommend you reduce the kicker cost to exiling only one blue card instead of two.

Wed, 2017-02-01 14:57
Inverness
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Sakon:

That is a fantastic card. I think it might be a bit on the strong side, though. :/

Wed, 2017-02-01 14:59
Asthanius
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@Mahx: The power level of individual cards swings wildly over time. That's kinda like saying Lighting Strike is overcosted because Lightning Bolt exists.

Wed, 2017-02-01 15:46
ThisisSakon
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Did a little overhaul

Wed, 2017-02-01 16:01
Mahx Michael
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@Ashtasius
Yes, and it is
I would never carry a Lightning Strike in my deck if I could get a Lightning Bolt! (Unless I wanted eight 3 damage spells in the same deck.)
But I get your point Winking smiley

Wed, 2017-02-01 16:02
Flo00
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@Mahx: Sorry, I was responding to your comment on my card and wanted to write "as few as" not "as much as". XS Must have been pretty tired when writing it Stick out your tongue

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Furthermore, I consider that Carthage must be destroyed.

Wed, 2017-02-01 16:17
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Wed, 2017-02-01 17:22
Nhoj2307

Plea to the Gifted 4 mana symbolWhite mana symbol
Rare
Sorcery

Multikicker - Remove a Loyalty Counter from a Planeswalker you control

Search your library for a Planeswalker card, reveal it and put it into your hand. Then shuffle your library. Until the next end phase, you may cast a Planeswalker spell with converted mana cost X without paying its mana cost, where X is the number of times ~ was kicked.

EDIT, thanks for the wording fix sdfkjgh.

Wed, 2017-02-01 17:17
sdfkjgh
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@Nhoj: switch the last two bits: "...with converted mana cost X without paying its mana cost, where X is the number of times ~ was kicked." Other than that, an interesting little card.

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Wed, 2017-02-01 18:36
Mahx Michael
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@Flo00
I see, that might be true indeed. Then what do you think of my design?


I just realized something... My design is a reworked version of something I've been brewing on for a while now, but in the previous version, it had strive instead of multikicker, and therefore would get one target extra for the same mana cost.
The thing is, sacrificing a creature is kind of like a cost in itself, would it be possible to reduce the kicker cost to White mana symbol or 1 mana symbol?

Wed, 2017-02-01 19:58
Aarhg
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Okay, I fixed the text on my entry, and I changed the name, because "Remove Wrappings" sounded too much like opening a present, haha.

Updated entry

Mon, 2017-02-06 10:39
Fermat

Old Entry
Reprocess 2 mana symbolBlue mana symbol
Sorcery Rare
Kicker—Sacrifice one or more artifacts (You may sacrifice one or more artifacts in addition to any other costs as you cast this spell.)
Search your library for an artifact card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle your library. If ~ was kicked, you may put that card onto the battlefield if its converted mana cost is less than or equal to the total converted mana cost of the artifacts sacrificed to kick ~.
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Thu, 2017-02-02 05:22
Leviathan

I fixed my entry's cost as well as adjusted what it could counters. Now it just counters instant or sorcery spells, but it can also now counter loyalty abilities. Also got rid of the flavor text, because I feel it made the card look a bit crowded.

updated entry

Thu, 2017-02-02 08:30
Daij_Djan
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Sorry for the delay guys, I've been sleeping around 14 hours per day these past few days - but now, the poll finally is up!

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Thu, 2017-02-02 08:56
Flo00
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@Mahx: Like you said, the sacrifice is kind of a cost, why not just make it a cost?
Somehting like this:
Multikicker - White mana symbol, Sacrifice an attacking or blocking creature.
This way the multikicker makes sense without the card even further referring to it Big smile
(So yes, I think it would be ok at only White mana symbol.)

@Daij: Everyone neets to rest sometime. Thanks for being part of making this forum such a great place Winking smiley

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Furthermore, I consider that Carthage must be destroyed.

Thu, 2017-02-02 16:50
Mahx Michael
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@Flo00
But wouldn't a cost also require an effect? It's not like ther is any Magic card that lets you pay an adittional X mana symbol, just for the sake of spending extra mana.
And if I where to add an effect, let's say this: "Multilkicker - White mana symbol, Sacrifice an attacking or blocking creature. You gain 1 life for each time ~ was kicked", wouldn't that be a bit much?

Thu, 2017-02-02 17:12
Flo00
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It makes your card work better, that's all it needs to do. And Skyrider Elf has exactly that: An X mana symbol just for the sake of spending more mana. It doesn't refer to the X at all Winking smiley

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Furthermore, I consider that Carthage must be destroyed.

Thu, 2017-02-02 18:01
sdfkjgh
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@Flo: technically, the X mana symbol allows you to pay an additional Mardu to get a 5/5 flier.

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Thu, 2017-02-02 18:24
Mahx Michael
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@Flo00
Now that you mention it, one of my designs have the same thing too . Thanks for helping out A happy smile

Thu, 2017-02-02 21:06
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Thu, 2017-02-02 21:09
thehuw
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@Ziolang: I don't know if I'd ever play this over Goblin Bushwhacker - a 1/1 Goblin isn't the most exciting thing to flash in, especially since the kicker upside is only relevant on your turn.

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Thu, 2017-02-02 22:38
finofashark
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Entry

Deep Insight Blue mana symbol
Sorcery Mythic Rare
Kicker -- Sacrifice a creature.
Target player draws a card. If Deep Insight was kicked that player draws three cards instead.
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance..."

Thu, 2017-02-02 22:44
thehuw
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@finofashark: Altar's Reap would like a very strong word with that card. Cheaper, draws more cards, and is more flexible. (I don't think the rarity bump justifies it.)

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Fri, 2017-02-03 00:37
Aarhg
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After looking at some other reanimation spells in Magic, I decided to up the kicker cost by 1 mana symbol. The card seems pretty balanced now, but any feedback would still be good.

Fri, 2017-02-03 21:41
Param
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Render

Open the Locks Blue mana symbolBlack mana symbol
Sorcery Rare
Multikicker—Sacrifice an artifact
Investigate, then investigate for each time Open the Locks was kicked

Sun, 2017-02-05 21:28
spazlaz

Sat, 2017-02-04 02:40
sdfkjgh
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@spazlaz: now that is really interesting. Plus, it's perfectly costed. I think I know who I'm voting for.

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Sat, 2017-02-04 04:04
Touhoufanatic
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altered my entry, bot its ability, and potential usability.

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Sun, 2017-02-05 14:13
Mahx Michael
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Actually, I think I want to go with my old wording of my design (ecept with lowered kicker cost), while even though the new wording has less text, the old one looks less chaotic in the sense of how the text is distributed in the textbox. I don't know if anyone else pays attention to such things, but I personally prefer at least a certain amount of symmetri in a card render.
Underneath I have pasted the two different designs for comparison. (Old then new.)

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This render art was the closest I managed to get to what I actually wanted. The concept of render art I was searching for was a kind og bright light-emmiting angelshaped figure, raising up and hovering above the body of a dead warrior, so it was really close actually. I really wouldn't mind if I was able to find one with multiple instances of this phenomenon, but I think this should be fine. What do you guys think about the renders and their comparison?

Sat, 2017-02-04 11:30
Daij_Djan
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@spazlaz: Very cool card, but the wording is rather iffy:

First a minor issue: It's "Creatures you control have XXX."

Next up currently you gain the abilities rather than the artifact, which is most likely not intentional Winking smiley

Hidden aganda probably is the closest to the ability itself (does it actually need the pseudo, btw?). Maybe combine this with the Siege cycle?

My suggestion would be:

Unknown Anomaly 1 mana symbol
Legendary Artifact Mythic Rare
Multikicker 3 mana symbol
Incomprehensible -- As ~ enters the battlefield, secretly choose XX, YY or ZZ for each time ~ was kicked. You may reveal one or more choices any time.
• XX - Creatures you control get +1/+1.
• YY - Creatures you control have flying.
• ZZ - Creatures you control have lifelink.

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Sat, 2017-02-04 23:40
ZephyrPhantom
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@ Mahx - Right side's cleaner and I would go with it for the sake of this competition since reminder text isn't required for rares.


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Sun, 2017-02-05 00:38
Angelic_Bovines
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Why is the kicker Blue mana symbolBlue mana symbol? Because you're making it rain.

Sun, 2017-02-05 14:15
Mahx Michael
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@ZephyrPhantom
Ok, thanks. I'll do that A happy smile

Sun, 2017-02-05 21:25
spazlaz

@Daij_Djan: Thanks, fixed.

@sdfkjgh: Thanks A happy smile

Sun, 2017-02-05 21:57
Aarhg
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@spazlaz: I should probably also mention that there's a missing "n" in the card's name. Stick out your tongue

Mon, 2017-02-06 10:48
finofashark
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@TheHuw Rarity bump + down to sorcery speed so you lose the ability to react to removal like altars reap and have to plan to use the creature(do I attack and risk losing it or get the cards now) so how is that more flexible? Also pushing into blue which has better card draw than black hence the increase in cards drawn. I don't see how this is an issue. Ancestral Recall and similar have been broken in the past but wizards always likes to make similar card if they can with higher costs. We have had ones with delve, improvise and caring about your graveyard size all fairly recently.

Mon, 2017-02-06 10:59
thehuw
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It's more flexible because you can just cycle it if you don't have a sacrifice. Doesn't seem like much, but it can be significant. I believe this was instant speed when I commented on it, too.

Regardless, if you're pulling the Power 9 as justification for pushing a card, I'm not really sure what to say to you. Treasure Cruise and Reverse Engineer need significantly more setup than this does.

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Mon, 2017-02-06 16:40
Pixi-Rex
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Entry

Mon, 2017-02-06 19:08
Daij_Djan
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This thread is now closed, the poll can be found here.

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