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Fri, 2016-01-22 15:59
Liz the Goddess
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So I've done this before, in the main thread, but now that we have our own forum, let's make a thread for it.

I like drafting, but I don't like the price tag that comes with drafting older sets. I also have no one to draft with. Luckily, Lackey fixes that. We can draft easily on it, for free, AND we can draft custom sets! Which is why I suggest the absolutely out of left field idea of us drafting.

If anyone ever wants to draft, say so in here. Say a time frame you're gonna be around for, what sets might be interesting to draft, and then wait for some responses, hopefully. I'll start.

I have a three day weekend starting today, and I'm free for the entirety of it. I'm free literally all day all three of these days, so if anyone wants to draft anything (I'm thinking maybe the Shadowmoor block, cause I haven't drafted that yet and it looks rad) I'm down. Just slap an answer here as to when you're available, and if we get four or more people, we can draft.

I like bears.

Fri, 2016-01-22 16:05
jacqui-pup
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I'm obviously up for Shadowmoor drafting.

Although... it would be neat if we did a chaos draft with Ante Up. :0)

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Fri, 2016-01-22 16:08
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Should be open on Sunday. FNM tonight, D&D tomorrow.

Fri, 2016-01-22 16:08
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Oh man I am so down for a chaos draft with Ante Up!. That'd be my jam! It's also be my chance to show how bad I am at designing for draft and learning from the experience.

I like bears.

Fri, 2016-01-22 18:31
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If you'd like to draft at some point today I am available AND interested.

[center]"It's exciting to create something that demonstrates how clever you are, that you pushed in a direction that players didn't anticipate. The problem is that the point of game design isn't to be clever, it's to create a great game." --Mark Rosewater

Fri, 2016-01-22 18:49
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Then we just need one more person. I'mma be sitting on Lackey. If anyone's interested, go ahead and pop in. I'll be on the Custom magic side, so if I see three others there when I check up on it, I'll bug you guys and we can make a room.

I like bears.

Fri, 2016-01-22 23:08
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Two games in, we've discovered armored ascension is really good for limited. Both times I almost obliterated Jacqui when she was at half health out of nowhere. Once, she survived by asking someone to put a -1/-1 counter on their creature so she could move it over. The second time, no such luck. But I lost the second game to my own silly mistake, so oh well.

If anyone's around tomorrow, we could do some more drafts. I'll be sitting on Custom Magic. Jacqui suggested Time Spiral, and those sets have always looked intensely fun to me. So, we also need to discuss if it's 3 Time Spiral packs, or 2 TS 1 Chaos, or spiral, chaos, sight.

I like bears.

Sat, 2016-01-23 00:09
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Yeah naw Herz had me on the ropes the entire time. My attacking with 3 1/1s into 1/1s with first strike was all a part of his grand plan.

I like bears.

Sat, 2016-01-23 21:03
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I'm free today or tomorrow to draft

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Sun, 2016-01-24 16:10
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Justnobody and I hung around yesterday and no one showed up Stick out your tongue. Wind said he'd be down today. Anyone else? We're still considering Timespiral of some variety, but I'm down for everything. I can't do anything for the next week so I'd like to get my magic outta me now.

I like bears.

Sun, 2016-01-24 16:58
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I'd be up for something today but I would need to figure out what time.

[center]"It's exciting to create something that demonstrates how clever you are, that you pushed in a direction that players didn't anticipate. The problem is that the point of game design isn't to be clever, it's to create a great game." --Mark Rosewater

Sun, 2016-01-24 17:26
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Well since all we need is one more person (other than you, currently it's Windy and I hanging out in Custom Magic), hopefully the time is "as soon as possible". What time would be best for you, Jacqui?

I like bears.

Sun, 2016-01-24 19:19
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I'll hop on Lackey. Spring semester doesn't start until Wednesday so I've got nothing to do but work out and go to frat parties (don't judge). I'm down to draft something ridiculous like Conspiracy/MM1/MM2, or the full Time Spiral block.

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Sun, 2016-01-24 20:13
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We're waiting on one last person. Jacqui's apparently AFK enough to not be able to notice her Skype, so if anyone else is around, we're almost set up for a draft.

I like bears.

Sun, 2016-01-24 20:40
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I'm game now!!

[center]"It's exciting to create something that demonstrates how clever you are, that you pushed in a direction that players didn't anticipate. The problem is that the point of game design isn't to be clever, it's to create a great game." --Mark Rosewater

Sun, 2016-01-24 23:55
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STAR DRAFT: Each person was allied with the person next to them (wrapping around, so monger and JN were buddies)

justnobody (Black/green mana symbol Sprout Swarm shenanigans)
Jacqui (Green mana symbolWhite mana symbolBlue mana symbol Bounce + Timbermare shenanigans)
Marzen (Black mana symbolRed mana symbolGreen mana symbol big stuff)
Windy (White/blue mana symbol tempo)
monger (Black/red mana symbol aggro)

TODAY WE LEARNED:

Mono-blue gets Harrow.
Mono-red gets Bounce.
Mono-green gets Bounce. (Universe 1 only)
Timbermare is awesome.
Time Spiral was weird.

RESULTS:

UNIVERSE A: Jacqui misclicks all her Islands when casting a Timbermare, leading Wind to deal eight to the face. Her Healing Leaves are obviously useless as she loses with -3 life, letting Wind and his allies win.

UNIVERSE 1: Jacqui clicks all but one Forest casting a Timbermare, leading her to Venser's Diffusion Venser's Sliver and then cast a shockingly un-useless Healing Leaves. She kills Wind and Marzen kills monger, leading to a shocking double victory for Jacqui and Marzen!!!

[center]"It's exciting to create something that demonstrates how clever you are, that you pushed in a direction that players didn't anticipate. The problem is that the point of game design isn't to be clever, it's to create a great game." --Mark Rosewater

Mon, 2016-01-25 03:01
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So, next week: Who'd be up for triple Realms of Mashara?

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Mon, 2016-01-25 04:23
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Before this game, I had thought Sprout Swarm was very good. Now I realize that's an understatement.

Sucks that you ended up losing that way, but I'm happy that at least one of my allies won.

My deck, by the way:

Spoiler:
1 Aetherflame Wall
1 Bogardan Lancer
1 Bogardan Rager
1 Emberwilde Augur
1 Fomori Nomad
1 Keldon Marauders
1 Skirk Shaman
1 Stingscourger
1 Sulfur Elemental

1 Cyclopean Giant
1 Deadly Grub
1 Gorgon Recluse
1 Muck Drubb
1 Spitting Sliver
1 Stronghold Rats
1 Trespasser il-Vec

1 Disintegrate
2 Dead // Gone
1 Ghostfire
1 Riddle of Lightning

1 Assassinate
1 Damnation
1 Melancholy

7 Swamp
9 Mountain

Sideboard:
1 Blightspeaker
1 Oblivion Crown
1 Rathi Trapper

1 Foriysian Totem

1 Amrou Seekers
1 Cloudchaser Kestrel
1 Dust of Moments
1 Even the Odds
1 Ghost Tactician
1 Momentary Blink
1 Poultice Sliver

1 Blind Phantasm
1 Looter il-Kor
1 Sarcomite Myr
1 Unblinking Bleb
1 Venser's Diffusion

1 Cyclical Evolution
2 Glass Asp
1 Might Sliver

1 Jhoira of the Ghitu

As far as I can remember:
-pack 1 I was all over the place (U? move into WU? move into WRB? move into RBg??)
-pack 2 I started picking up more RB stuff
-pack 3 I pick Jhoria and take a few blue cards
-but I didn't feel comfortable splashing for ~3 cards without fixing in deckbuilding
Other than that, I should have swapped the Augur for the Trapper, and maybe tried to fit in the Blightspeaker (for the Lancer?) as well.

Next week is exam week so I doubt I'll be on.

Mon, 2016-01-25 05:45
jacqui-pup
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OH MY GOD! Imagine if you had resolved a Damnation? That would certainly change things quick.

[center]"It's exciting to create something that demonstrates how clever you are, that you pushed in a direction that players didn't anticipate. The problem is that the point of game design isn't to be clever, it's to create a great game." --Mark Rosewater

Mon, 2016-01-25 07:25
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Wait, sorry, Damnation? Holy geez Funny thing was, over my skype chat I was saying "This is normally why I play counter spells". "Why aren't you playing counterspells?" "Because draft." So, about a minute later, that exact conversation happened about wrath effects. Turns out, draft doesn't matter, a black player got the wrath

Realms sounds like a fun draft set, so I'd be in.
Not to be self promotional, but would anyone be interested in drafting SoR once the new plugin version is released?

Tue, 2016-01-26 21:10
jacqui-pup
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I'd draft SoR.

[center]"It's exciting to create something that demonstrates how clever you are, that you pushed in a direction that players didn't anticipate. The problem is that the point of game design isn't to be clever, it's to create a great game." --Mark Rosewater

Fri, 2016-01-29 15:30
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Aight, I'm free today through Sunday (though later tonight I'm forcing my bestie to play Metroid with me cause she never has, so I'm really only here until late evening). So if anyone's down to clown, post it here in the thread. I have absolutely no idea what to draft. It could be custom, it could be legit, whichever you guys want. I just like drafting.

I like bears.

Fri, 2016-01-29 16:28
WindyDelcarlo
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I'm going to GP Vancouver so I won't really be available this weekend

Fri, 2016-01-29 18:36
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I'm up for any lackey shenanigans that MSE does. I just need to be informed Stick out your tongue It's hard to keep up with.

Fri, 2016-01-29 21:23
jacqui-pup
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I am free all of tomorrow.

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Fri, 2016-01-29 22:08
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I am also free tomorrow

Met the devil of card design and sacrificed my creativity for unparalleled templating skill.

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Sat, 2016-01-30 14:49
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Well if you're available, I'll be on Lackey. It seems like we might have four today Stick out your tongue

I'm avaiable most of today, though after 5 or so EST, I'm gonna be busy. That prolly won't be so bad to our schedule.

I like bears.

Sat, 2016-01-30 16:28
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We only need one more to do a Mashara draft, guys! Come one, come all. Done Jacqui and I are sitting around (though Done won't be ready for 20 minutes or so)

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Sat, 2016-01-30 17:12
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Okay, looking for one more...

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Sat, 2016-01-30 18:37
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I might do a draft today. When?

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Sat, 2016-01-30 18:42
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Well we've been sitting around waiting for another to show up. Literally right now. But Done disappeared and we dunno where he went so now we need two, I guess.

I like bears.

Sun, 2016-01-31 00:38
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I'd like to try drafting K15 or doing a Chaos Draft with MSE sets. If anybody is interested I'll be online right now and tomorrow.

Sun, 2016-01-31 19:20
jacqui-pup
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We have three on the room right now and are looking for a fourth for triple Mashara draft. Anyone interested get on the server!

[center]"It's exciting to create something that demonstrates how clever you are, that you pushed in a direction that players didn't anticipate. The problem is that the point of game design isn't to be clever, it's to create a great game." --Mark Rosewater

Sun, 2016-01-31 20:57
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D0ne, Neo, Korakhos and I are currently on pack three of triple Mashara. It's a very neat set, and best of all I got four White mana symbolBlack mana symbol 2/2 lifelinkers so I can be the Orzhov priestess I've always been on the inside. ;0)

[center]"It's exciting to create something that demonstrates how clever you are, that you pushed in a direction that players didn't anticipate. The problem is that the point of game design isn't to be clever, it's to create a great game." --Mark Rosewater

Sun, 2016-01-31 22:00
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Aww, I missed it A sad 'frowny'

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Sat, 2016-02-06 16:45
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Weekly drafting call out. I'll be sitting on the custom magic section, waiting for fours. I dunno what we'll be playing today. I've got a few suggestions: Modern Masters. Mirrodin block. Odyssey block. Chaos draft. Come on in and give your suggestions.

I like bears.

Sat, 2016-02-06 17:21
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I can't connect to the server for reasons unknown so I'm probably sitting today out.

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Sat, 2016-02-06 17:22
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That's everyone, don't worry about it

Sat, 2016-02-06 23:39
jacqui-pup
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Jesus christ, what's up with Lackey's servers...?

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Sun, 2016-02-07 02:21
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Hey, server's back up. When you're all asleep, but ok.

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Sun, 2016-02-07 02:26
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I'm awake, just D&D'ing

Sun, 2016-02-07 15:47
jacqui-pup
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I'll be on today if any of you want to draft.

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Sun, 2016-02-07 19:50
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SO, we drafted Tales-Tales-RWA. Trying to prove a point, I try to draft GU before being passed all kinds of good blue-red cards so I switch over. Turns out, dragons that get +2/+0 when you cast a cantrip or a retrace draw spell are pretty good.

Wed, 2016-02-10 18:25
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For our next draft, I kind want to try a Kamigawa Block draft. I don't know if it'd be good, I've just liked what I've seen from the set. I know its reputation though. What do you guys think, good to draft?

I like bears.

Wed, 2016-02-10 18:46
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I'd personally be interested in drafting Modern Masters 2015 at some point. I never got a chance to play it, but it looked really interesting. I'll just have to figure out the Lackey interface first...

Another option would be playing Timespiraled's Vault Masters Cube. Someone would have to put it on Lackey, though. Not sure how hard that is.

Wed, 2016-02-10 19:30
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I wouldn't mind adding it-- it's a cool set. Power level is through the roof on it, though.

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Fri, 2016-02-12 19:31
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So, guys. I've been taken off the schedule at work for the entirety of next week. If anyone ever wants to draft, you've got one dude down Stick out your tongue. I'mma be sitting on Lackey today. Anyone else down? We can try Modern Masters. I'd say we go MM1, MM2, MM2.

I like bears.

Fri, 2016-02-12 20:33
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MM1 is a good format. MM2 is a good format. However, the archetypes are different and don't support each other in the slightest

Fri, 2016-02-12 20:52
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Well alright fancy pants, we can do one or the other Stick out your tongue I dunno enough about them to make a declaration one way or the other. MM has always been a tad out of my price range.

I like bears.

Fri, 2016-02-12 21:01
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I'd personally prefer to do MM2. From what I've seen, it looks more fun than MM1. I'll be around later tonight if anyone wants to do some drafting.
Someday Vault Masters will happen. Someday...

Fri, 2016-02-12 22:10
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We currently got three people sitting in Lackey. If anyone's down, the next person showing up will join us for the draft Stick out your tongue

I like bears.