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Fri, 2015-11-06 06:18
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Alright well I finally made a decklist. It's just basic Black mana symbol aggro that I threw together in a couple minutes b/c I didn't want to look through all the cards:

14x Swamp
4x magical collapse
4x cruel desperation
4x darkness descended
2x mage of reprisals
4x eternal sentinel
4x necromancer's backlash
4x graveyard menace

Looking forward to suggestions on how to improve this. Obviously haven't looked through all cards at all and just barely looked through the Black mana symbol cards.

Fri, 2015-11-06 06:40
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Replace Magical Collapse with Ostracism. It's actual Paath to Exile (and happens to be MSE Modern legal, unlike Magical Collapse )
Also, am I seeing that right? The mana base is 14 lands? I think you're missing 20 cards

Fri, 2015-11-06 07:05
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Hey, I have literally 3 decks that use counterspells. Two of them are protection for a combo

Fri, 2015-11-06 12:26
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There's a bit of token spam in the format but it's not the most popular strategy.

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Fri, 2015-11-06 12:32
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Also, looking at all these Sultai decklists almost makes me feel sorry for how much aqua and I have neutered FoR's self-mill stuff.

But not really. Cheatyfaces ;0)

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Fri, 2015-11-06 19:29
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No set symbol yet, since I can artist. But I do have a variety of changes to present to all you lovely people.

Click me to get the recent FoR set file.

Changelog

Umi V 1.0 Changes
-All five battlemages now sport the 2A and/or 1B kicker.
-Updated Retribute to Jaqui's wording.
-Minor formatting changes to many cards(Bullet point modal, Magic Grammar mistakes, ect)
-Changed the Flavor text in some spots.
WHITE:
-Crushing Light:Upped kicker to 1 mana symbolWhite mana symbolWhite mana symbol and targets two instead of three creatures.

BLUE:
-Academy Guardian:Now gains double strike when blocking with just two creatures. (Also, double strike in blue feels definately out of color. Consider replacing with something else , i.e armed with Aether).
-Cephalid Mindbreaker: Activated ability now costs 1 mana symbolBlue mana symbol.

BLACK:
-Bog Hermit: +1/+1 counter activated ability now simply taps creature.
-Shade Soldier: Renamed to Duskwalker and his activated now requires a tap.

RED:
-Blitz Lizard: To differentiate itself from Darter Lizard, changed to 3/1 with flash if prosperous.
-Hot-Blooded Assistant: Removed prosperity entwine because of space concerns.
[J]-Wild Flames: Upped to 2 mana symbolRed mana symbol

Green:
[J]-Canopy Elder: Removed trample from the pump and changed to cost to X mana symbolGreen mana symbolGreen mana symbolGreen mana symbol.
-Huge Predator: Added 2 mana symbolGreen mana symbol cost to add a counter to it.

Multi:
-Abyssal Rotmaw: has base p/t 5/5.
-Anazoa: A lot has been changed about this card. In order to move Drownvines to Uncommon, this had to be downshifted. It is now a 3/3 for 3 mana symbolGreen mana symbolBlue mana symbolBlack mana symbol that gains +1/+1 when a nonland permanent surfaces, intending to serve as Ana's common lategame threat.
[J]-Breeder of the Depths: You said it was like Narcomeba on crack, now it Narcombeas and shuffles on surfacing (read: makes only 1 1/1 frog when surfacing.)
[J]-Drownvines: Now a pushed uncommon.
-Evergrowing Whale: Now draws 4 cards on ETB rather than power.
-Selenia, Evincar of Dega: First Vegence ability doesn't affect herself.

ARTIFACT:
[J]-Sunken Runestone: Requires you to pay 1 mana symbol when it surfaces to get the mana.

V 1.2
-Breeder now requires Green mana symbolBlue mana symbol to trigger surface and to shuffle it back. In exchange, the effect gets two frogs again.
-Loth'Kadreal Arcanist now triggers only for spells.

V 1.22
-Color restrictions back on Academy Guardian
-Canopy Elder's Activated costs 3 mana symbolGreen mana symbolGreen mana symbolGreen mana symbol

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Fri, 2015-11-06 19:48
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I feel like Breeder otD should still make 2 frogs. Leave some teeth, lol.

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Fri, 2015-11-06 20:07
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It still makes two frogs; the most recent version is V 1.22 and well, see V 1.2 for that re-update.

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Fri, 2015-11-06 20:18
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Ok good, I missed the "in exchange bit"

I like a lingering souls that you get to cast while milling. Very cool effect

Sat, 2015-11-07 02:20
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is relic of the unreal banned?

new decklist btw. So used to playing sealed & edh i forgot you needed 60 cards xZ

Sat, 2015-11-07 06:06
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I feel like a lot of Arknia is super powerful.

Sat, 2015-11-07 07:08
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So, uh, has anyone else looked at Aresia's "Manifest Thought"? Is Blue/red mana symbol literally actually the best combination?

Sun, 2015-11-08 00:47
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1 mana symbolBlue mana symbolRed mana symbol "Until end of turn, whenever you cast a spell, you may copy that spell. You may choose new targets for the copies." <-- That by itself it kinda good. However...
"Infuse Blue/red mana symbol (Blue/red mana symbol, Discard this card: You may add this card’s effects to each instant or sorcery spell you cast this turn.)"

Sun, 2015-11-08 02:46
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If you can't tell, I'm concerned about this in storm decks where literally "draw, draw, ritual, Pyroflare" will be lethal after this.

Sun, 2015-11-08 05:04
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But Aresia isn't in the format yet?

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Sun, 2015-11-08 05:09
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Not until I update, but I have the set file

Mon, 2015-11-09 01:16
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Mercadian Tides (MTI)
Xoltan (Xolt)
Tales of Aresia (ARE)
Rewriting Aresia (REA)
Dabriohm (DAB)

Ideally we'll look over these before the update and make sure they're not severely busted

Mon, 2015-11-09 01:19
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(XOL) Winking smiley

Mon, 2015-11-09 02:06
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AUP? ;D

I could put in Champions too, defending on when the update is. I can release it early for people who play MSE Modern Big smile

I like bears.

Mon, 2015-11-09 02:10
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Jacqui is mainly who I'm waiting on. The release is going to be essentially the same day as she releases MTI I don't want to release it before then because the current update file has MTI in it

Mon, 2015-11-09 02:30
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Wind, I've updated Mashara with a new set file containing changes based on the MSE modern testing we've seen. If you could include it in the next update, that'd be awesome!

On a side note, is there anyone who thinks they'd be able to make a sweet booster pack image for Glacia/Mashara?

Mon, 2015-11-09 02:40
ThisisSakon
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On it. You got an image in mind

Mon, 2015-11-09 02:59
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Awesome! Can you please use this dude for Glacia, and this fine fellow for Mashara?

Mon, 2015-11-09 04:49
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From a brief overview, cards that stood out in general-

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DAB
-Tyriel, Angelic Artisan : I need to take another look at the equipment available but off the top of my head, Titanslice Cleaver and Voidreaver would both be great with this. It does cost 5 though.
-Wellspring of History: Another good storm card, worse than Epiphany since it keeps the cards in exile but it can help you find more spells. At least it's blue.
-Furious Arrival: Goryo's Vengeance might become a deck.
-Swindle: There's probably a deck in here somewhere.
-Elvish Lightseeker: Possible sideboard card.
-Grim Historian: Something for the dredge deck, perhaps?
-Derelict Scavenger: Another possible combo piece.
-Priceless Plunders: Draw an extra nonland card each turn. Format's probably too fast right now (and probably in the future) for it though.
-Divine Forge: Fits into the equipment deck very well.
-Uncharted Territory: dredge dredge dredge (Probably not that great since it's colorless though)

ARE
-Mosan, Mayor of the Lost: Good with artifacts.
-Newfound Guide: Another possible sideboard card.
-Change of Weather: Again, another possible sideboard card.
-Paint the Mind: Cheaper Predetermined Results? Sure.
-Damned Woodwitch: Infinite death triggers with the "pay B when put into a graveyard" guy.
-Destroy Innocence: Could be a good removal spell depending on the deck, but you have to run CMC 4+ stuff.
-Willing Sacrifice: Pseudoboardwipe in tokens.
-Soulflayer Hunters: Psuedoboardwipe against tokens.
-Assassin's Strike: Potent in a control deck, good in other decks.
-Insignia Blast: Worse than Strike but possibly still good.
-Manifest Thought: Yep, this is busted.
-Chilling Orb: Possible anti-storm sideboard card.
-reveal color then color cycle: Definitely playable.

REA
-Dreamwatch Scrier: Another sideboard card.
-Memory cycle: Useful in the right deck but also fragile. Best is Memory of Flames.
-Remember the Tales: Probably not playable, but I like the idea of it being playable.
-Continuous Trauma: Sideboard
-Raven's Crime: Who doesn't love this bad boy? Mostly useful in dredge but has control/midrange applications as well.
-Wishes Taken Back: Gifts junior.
-Turn the Pages: Want to gamble?
-Blooming Life: More cheating out cards.
-Memory Gardener: Fetch chain.
-Red, Queen of the Woods: I think there was another Elf lord in DAB, but this one is more useful.
-Innet, Forger of Nightmares: Useful.
-Dream Mox: One drop, exile it, get more mana.
-Third Spire Outlook: Hurts storm but is expensive.
-enemy reveal lands: Definitely playable.

XOL
-Magus of Suppression: Not really sure what this would sideboard for but it's available.
-Soul's Attendant: I think this is the second or third version of this/Soul Warden. inb4 soul sisters
-Prophesize: It's basically Preordain.
-Tamiyo, the Lost Tide: Good abilities but she's a four drop.
-Dread Necromage: Weenies? idk, I just like Xathrid Necromancer.
-Magus of Contamination: If you can keep this up for a few turns and your opponent isn't running black, you've probably won.
-Stonecur Witch: Maybe.
-Coastal Tidetail: It's a mana dork, albeit less playable than others like Birds.
-Magus of the Library: Maybe.
-Avrol, the Catalyst: So you can return it for free if you're playing dredge or have an easily recurrable threat in other decks? Awesome.
-Scarbearer: Zoo-esque aggro?
-War-Call Mystic: Sweet.
-bottom of library cycle: Fit well into some decks but others won't be able to trigger the condition as often. Crest and Coast are probably the best, followed by Bog.

Mon, 2015-11-09 14:59
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To essentially parrot what Kiku said in the GP Athens topic, can someone post all of the cards giving MSE modern trouble? I kinda wanna know.

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Mon, 2015-11-09 16:31
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Sure! Note that some of these already have fixes and whatnot, so this isn't set in stone. I won't cover the new banlist, because that's already a thing.

Red wrote:
A lot of people have made complaints about the speed of red in general, reliably getting turn 3 to 4 kills. What to blame:

  • Maniacal Scourge: The Diddy Kong of MSE modern. "Whenever a red instant or sorcery spell you control deals damage, ~ gets +X/+0 until end of turn, where X is the damage dealt." MS has received the nerf of all nerfs: Maniacal Scourge now triggers on damage to "one or more other creatures or opponents". It gets a flat +2/+0 and gains first strike from the trigger. It has also been adjusted down to 0/1.
  • Enthusiasm for Slaughter: Doubles all damage that has yet to be dealt. No talk of nerfs, unless I missed some. Has been and is currently being talked about, the latest cost is 1 mana symbolRed mana symbolRed mana symbol
  • Wild Flames: Hasn't come up much, but it hits an opponent for 4 damage at Red mana symbol. Wild Flames now costs 2 mana symbolRed mana symbol, apparently

White wrote:
Nothing much, but some talk of removing the "equipment spells cost 1 mana symbol less to cast" from Battlefield Forgemaster has been happening.

Blue wrote:
While not out yet, one card in particular has stirred up a bit of talk
  • Manifest Thought: Sorcery that makes instant and sorceries cost 1 less until eot. The main problem seems to be complexity and memory issues, because you can discard it via a mechanic (and Red mana symbolBlue mana symbol) to give each each instant and sorcery you cast the 1 mana symbol less ability. The potential for chaining spells and storm is huge.

Multicolored wrote:
  • Red mana symbolBlue mana symbol Counterblast: While not as oppressive as red rn, counterblast does counter a spell and then damage any number of things equal to that spell's mana cost. A potential fix could be dealing the damage to one thing. As of right now it's a necessary evil for any deck that wants to combat the faster decks

Artifact wrote:
  • Blade of Free Will: Equipped creature gets +3/+3. Fairly straightforward, until you read it only costs 1 mana symbol to cast and can equip to any creature with power >3 for free. Potential fixes have already been discussed, including: Swapping equip 4 and cast 1 around; making cast 3 or 2 and equip 2 or 3

Basically, aggro is a bit pushed in this format. We need a team to balance out aggro cards in the format, IMHO

Mon, 2015-11-09 16:28
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We've been discussing how to cost Enthusiasm for Slaughter on the Core Set thread; lowest proposed cost has been 1 mana symbolRed mana symbolRed mana symbol for now, last I read they were going with that but haven't updated the set file yet; and I think aquaumisa costed Wild Flames up to 2 mana symbolRed mana symbol while updating Fragments of Rath.

Mon, 2015-11-09 16:30
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Told you I missed some nerfs A happy smile

Mon, 2015-11-09 22:55
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Cryptify (Hop) costs 2 mana symbolBlue mana symbol now.

Counterburst either needs to specify noncreature spells or cost 1UUR or not allow you to divide the damage. This spell:

Counterburst (fixed) 1 mana symbolBlue mana symbolRed mana symbol
Instant Rare
Counter target spell with converted mana cost 3 or less. Counterburst deals 3 damage to target creature or player.

Punishes aggro WITHOUT making it impossible to cast spells with CMC 5+.

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Mon, 2015-11-09 23:01
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That fix for Counterburst seems best. It definitely needed to never divide the damage

Tue, 2015-11-10 03:31
jacqui-pup
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Also, Aresia block is. Strong.

Really, really strong.

Strong enough that I don't feel comfortable including it in the format...

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Tue, 2015-11-10 03:38
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I'm guessing no one's running black cause Darkcrawler Shadow seems pretty typo'd and I haven't heard about it yet.

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Tue, 2015-11-10 03:40
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It is typo'd. And it's not legal I don't think.

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Tue, 2015-11-10 03:41
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Yeah, I was just going to pretend that one didn't exist. When I see cards like that, I just kinda look past em.

Replace the haste ability with can't block? Make it Black mana symbolBlack mana symbol? Make it a 3/2?

Tue, 2015-11-10 07:20
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Darkcrawler Shadow was a massive typo. It's supposed to be 2 mana symbolBlack mana symbolBlack mana symbol. So, until the update, consider it banned

Tue, 2015-11-10 07:38
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So U/R Tempo/Counterburn is a deck. I've been loving it so far, all aggressive one drops and tempo oriented counterspells.

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Tue, 2015-11-10 07:48
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That's why I think all the counterspells aren't good for control. They're all meant for Delver-style decks

Tue, 2015-11-10 07:54
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We could definitely use a few more control oriented counters.

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Tue, 2015-11-10 08:05
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And some suicide black. Dark Confidant should not be the suicideiest black card in the format.

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Wed, 2015-11-11 03:54
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Discussing something in the wrong thread. We were (or at least I was) really observant and started talking about bannings and card edits and whatnot in the wrong thread, so check out the last page or so of the MSE Modern GP

Wed, 2015-11-11 03:55
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Wed, 2015-11-11 04:40
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Somehow there are five different Suntail Hawks and no Glorious Anthems.

Well, until a certain sword gets fixed

Hawk Lion and Thinker
4x Cloudrunner
4x Liminid Nix
4x Dreamsmoke Wisp
4x Vengeful Apparition
4x Spectral Surge
text and comments
1/1 Flying for White mana symbol, except Spectral is an Instant and Vengeful can start adding counters for 2 mana symbolWhite mana symbolWhite mana symbol once there's a second somewhere.

Basically, it's the last scene from The Birds. Except only one of them's a bird. Same difference.

4x Young Warmaster
Spoiler:
2/1 for White mana symbol that gives everything +1/+1 and first strike once there's four critters, which is pretty much guaranteed by T3.
4x Linelan Enforcer
Spoiler:
White mana symbolWhite mana symbol for 2/2 first strike, lifelink that puts +1/+1 counters on your critters when they hit players. Should make up for no Crusades.
4x Battlefield Forgemaster
4x Lockpick
4x Steel Dagger
4x Blade of Free Will
Spoiler:
Forgemaster's a bit infamous already, X mana symbolWhite mana symbol for a 2/1 that fetches an Equipment with CMC X. He also makes Equips cheaper atm, but the current grabbings are 0 mana symbol costs that give +1/+0 and Blade of Free Will that currently costs 1 mana symbol and will auto-equip to anything in the deck for a dirt cheap +3/+3. About to get axed, might still be worth though.
2x Call to Battle
Spoiler:
X mana symbolWhite mana symbolWhite mana symbol Sorcery, Return each creature card with CMC X from your grave to the battlefield. Or in this deck, 1 mana symbolWhite mana symbolWhite mana symbol, resurrect everything but the Enforcer, and get some more 0 drop equipment from Forgemaster.
14x Plains
Doesn't look all that great on paper, but had a 10/9 first strike swinging on a single Plains so it works.
Other White Weenie stuff to include for those not looking to build the Suntail Hawk deck
Mob Mentality, White mana symbol instant, exile a critter with power less than the number of creatures you control
Telenia Swordmaster, White mana symbol 2/1. Tis a Lion.
Mirror-Shield Guardian, White mana symbolWhite mana symbol 2/2, Flash, you have hexproof. It's a white Counterspell with a free bear.
Elite Demon Hunter, White mana symbolWhite mana symbol 2/2 first strike, lifelink
Frea of the Skaal 1 mana symbolWhite mana symbolWhite mana symbol, 2/2 other critters get +1/+1 and vigilance, lategame or extras can Reinforce, 2 mana symbolWhite mana symbolWhite mana symbolWhite mana symbol and discard puts 2 +1/+1 counters on a critter and then you get 1/1 soldiers equal to that creature's power.
Cliffside Patrol, 2 mana symbolWhite mana symbol 3/2 that at Threshold gains first strike and lifelink
Linelan Skywarrior 2 mana symbolWhite mana symbol 2/1 flying, first strike, gives your guys +1/+1 when she swings
Snowground Rider, 1 mana symbolWhite mana symbolWhite mana symbol 3/2 first strike and Snow
Brave the Elements, Safe Passage, Banishing Light and Lingering Souls are reprinted

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Thu, 2015-11-12 06:06
WindyDelcarlo
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So, I'm looking at making an auto-update URL. Does anyone know of a website where I can do something similar the link below?

Lackey's example

It's not super necessary, just would eventually be a nice thing to have.

Fri, 2015-11-13 01:02
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Unrelated, but is anyone else here thinking about version names for the plugin? Not in the sense of "this new one is going to be plugin 1.1" or whatever, but like, actual names for the plugin. Like how OSX had updates named Puma, Cougar, etc.

I'm leaning towards made-up creature types, of which we have quite a few: off the top of my head, Barnacle, Daedra, Djanim, Hydron, Manatee, and Riefling. Or canon but off-beat creature types, like Assembly-Worker, Beeble, et cetera.

Actually, that could be cool: Our current version is Assembly-Worker, which is perfect for a functional beta. And then the actual 1.0 is, uh, Aurochs. Then Beeble, Camarid, Dreadnought, Efreet, Ferret, Graveborn, Homunculus, Imp, Juggernaut, Kithkin, Lammasu, Myr, Noggle, Ouphe, Praetor... okay there aren't creature types for Q or X but whatever!

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Fri, 2015-11-13 01:31
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I like the idea of unused creature types as names! That's so cool Big smile

Fri, 2015-11-13 04:03
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Xenomorph and Quetzecoatl Stick out your tongue

Fri, 2015-11-13 21:42
jacqui-pup
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Oh yeah, Quetzal is a creature type now. Thanks, Sakon.

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Fri, 2015-11-13 21:43
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Oh yeah it is! You welcome A happy smile

Sat, 2015-11-14 16:03
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(Doesn't tell them about Duplicrazed Maniac)

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Sun, 2015-11-15 21:02
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Incidentally, are we adding Kore Set 2015? I'd love to include it in this upcoming update-- it looks balanced and I'm greatly enjoying playing with it.

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