MSE Modern and LackeyCCG Discussion [Download in Original Post]

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Mon, 2016-01-04 02:46
ThisisSakon
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*Nervously renames Delver of Secrets to Seeker of Stuff*

Mon, 2016-01-04 02:50
ThisisSakon
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Is it Mutavault? I bet its mutavault

Mon, 2016-01-04 02:55
ThisisSakon
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You noticed the space distortion around a word, but not that Mutavault was in m14?

Mon, 2016-01-04 06:32
justnobody
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I need to get the latest update. Is the meta still a rock-paper-scissors of explosive combo, disruptive tempo, and redundant aggro? Or do we have midrange and control decks now too?

Time to start brewing. Any clue about when the next tournament is gonna be? And whether there's gonna be another mass update between now and then?

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Mon, 2016-01-04 07:54
WindyDelcarlo
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There should be the update with Preasti and SoR before the next tournament

Tue, 2016-01-05 06:08
WindyDelcarlo
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I mean, to cast it as such you need to have pretty much exactly Serila on the battlefield, but yeah, that's also viable.
(I still personally prefer Epiphany Storm because I don't have to deal with that That might have gone through enough times in my article)

[Do you think the GPs should hide in the new Lackey subforum or should it stay in Event Announcements?]

Sat, 2016-01-09 20:30
WindyDelcarlo
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Of note, SoR might actually enable Affinity as a deck

Tue, 2016-01-12 04:45
justnobody
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Woah, we got our own forum. Heh. Maybe I'll write a burn primer.

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Wed, 2016-01-13 04:34
voltaic-qui
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So we've established that the power level here is higher than Modern.

...

How good would Wild Mongrel be in this format with all the Madness stuff currently banned.

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Wed, 2016-01-13 04:40
WindyDelcarlo
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Still waiting on that Cawblade deck, guys

Wed, 2016-01-13 04:44
ThisisSakon
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Cawblade sang because it had Jace TMS and Stoneforge mystic for consistency, not because it had both caws and blades. We're missing a few pieces for it to take off

Wed, 2016-01-13 04:52
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I was trying to figure out what made it work I guess that makes sense, although all we're missing is a broken planeswalker (I have a StoneforgE Mystic rip off )

Wed, 2016-01-13 05:04
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Yeah. I played my first standard right before Cawblade got the banhammer. It is more fun just dying on turn 4 to Blue/red mana symbol Twin than it is playing through Cawblade. So maybe we keep that deck under wraps for a bit

Wed, 2016-01-13 05:08
WindyDelcarlo
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I love combo decks, so that isn't actually saying much I'd be okay facing Twin with most of my decks.
(I mean, while not infinite, you can lose on turn 4 to reanimator bringing back Drowner of Worlds)

Wed, 2016-01-13 16:28
WindyDelcarlo
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Should I update the plugin now to contain the fixes and SoR or so what I planned and wait for Preasti?

Thu, 2016-01-14 05:54
justnobody
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Thinking about a U/G/B deck using the critical mass of "take an extra turn" effects (eight playsets, if you include controlling your opponent's next turn). Play a little ramp, anything that lets you draw an extra card each turn, and then just start taking turns and never stop.

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Thu, 2016-01-14 07:47
ThisisSakon
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Sultai Stop Playing is a deck I can get behind


Quezrotal gets you extra cards, drains your opponent's hand, and 7 mana symbol aint nothin when you're taking all the turns in the world Winking smiley

Fri, 2016-02-12 01:24
WindyDelcarlo
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So, we're going to end up adding SoR and Preasti. What decks do you guys think are going to be happening? Will Affinity be viable as a tempo/midrange deck? Maybe storm will get better. Will Elementals finally be viable?

Sat, 2016-02-13 07:28
ThisisSakon
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I have no idea what's in, what's cool, or what's hip. Who's playing what? What wins? Where did this go?

Sat, 2016-02-13 07:42
WindyDelcarlo
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Well, we haven't done a tournament since the corrections because of how broken burn was I've been trying dredge but nothing concrete yet

Sat, 2016-02-13 07:49
ThisisSakon
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Perhaps we could finalize the corrections? Prepare the new sets for release?

Sat, 2016-02-13 15:38
WindyDelcarlo
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Corrections and stuff have been fixed, it's just a matter of playing games of MSE Modern

Sun, 2016-02-14 10:55
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Heyo, I'm trying to get into this and I've been brewing for a while (About 7 hours O.o) and I want to make sure nothing I got is banned.

Also, I'd really like to play a game or two, if anyone is up for it

I play Katawa Shoujo. And I use the Chatroom for MSE, so check up on me!

Sun, 2016-02-14 11:18
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Nevermind, I found the bannings and such

I play Katawa Shoujo. And I use the Chatroom for MSE, so check up on me!

Sun, 2016-02-14 20:14
ThisisSakon
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Well Champions is gold bordered but it's not supposed to be.

Tue, 2016-02-16 22:46
Guitarweeps
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Ack! I forgot how to update... I think I am still behind.

Nevermind it just came to me lol.

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Tue, 2016-02-16 23:36
WindyDelcarlo
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Any files that changed should ask to replace, which should let you keep your decks

Thu, 2016-02-18 03:07
voltaic-qui
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So I think there might be an awesome deck that's like Caw-Blade but mono red and also with reinforce and a goblin riding a bat that wipes the board every time you cast a spell.

formerly jacquipup

"It's exciting to create something that demonstrates how clever you are, that you pushed in a direction that players didn't anticipate. The problem is that the point of game design isn't to be clever, it's to create a great game."

Thu, 2016-02-18 03:38
ThisisSakon
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Jacqui-pup has assassins? :O

Assassins are viable? As in... my assassins??? :O

Thu, 2016-02-18 03:48
voltaic-qui
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Oh yes. Induction Ceremony and Alluring Hunter are already awesome in token strategies; but stuff like Grand Mentor puts them over the edge. The Assassin harbinger is sick too.

formerly jacquipup

"It's exciting to create something that demonstrates how clever you are, that you pushed in a direction that players didn't anticipate. The problem is that the point of game design isn't to be clever, it's to create a great game."

Thu, 2016-02-18 03:59
ThisisSakon
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That's so cool! Big smile

How's the X mana symbolWhite mana symbolWhite mana symbolWhite mana symbol spell? Do you use it at all?

Thu, 2016-02-18 04:04
voltaic-qui
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It's a little over the curve so no.

formerly jacquipup

"It's exciting to create something that demonstrates how clever you are, that you pushed in a direction that players didn't anticipate. The problem is that the point of game design isn't to be clever, it's to create a great game."

Thu, 2016-02-18 04:08
ThisisSakon
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Drat. That was the one I was most excited to toss into MSE modern. Oh well, can't win 'em all. Maybe someone will just print an absolutely absurd mana generator*

*Do NOT make a mono w absurd mana generator

Thu, 2016-02-18 04:12
ThisisSakon
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Yeah I might come around to changing it, it is a bit pushed for my tastes. Of course, there's not much you can change about it without making it lackluster, so maybe I'll take it as a lesson learned kinda thing.

If people start abusing it too much, I can make it only pump assassin creatures.

Thu, 2016-02-18 04:45
ThisisSakon
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Rescue Dead could be in some kinda control/dredge shell. I don't see how Flaring Passion is useful. Is there something that can benefit off of it?

Also, scorched-earth rebel seems pushed but if you're not going to use Raze (And I don't see that getting used before turn 3 or so) it's just a signal pest that has no evasion

Thu, 2016-02-18 04:46
ThisisSakon
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Unless there's gonna be an efficient way to recur enchantments in Red mana symbol I don't think Flaring Passion is going to break out. Especially since it plays like a voltron aura but you want to also have a bunch of creatures.

Fri, 2016-02-19 18:02
ThisisSakon
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Why is Servant of the Bastion even an enchantment if it doesn't use the enchantment frame? Also, that card does quite a lot for 1 mana symbolWhite mana symbolWhite mana symbol, jeez

Also, also, I think one of the cards I designed for The Lost Tales actually works perfectly with Flaring Passion. hmmm

Fri, 2016-02-19 22:54
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I don't think wotc even knew about Theros when Lumehaven was designed HOWEVER it was updated with the template so that one is likely an oversight...

Check out my updated set hub.

Sat, 2016-02-20 16:25
Decembra
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Hm. Am I the only person who's having these problems with the custommagic plugin?:

1. Many cards have no text fields.
2. Many cards have their text fields in their sound field.
3. Snow Charm's picture is an Ice Elemental token.

I'm not sure if this was a problem before the update, after, or both. The problem is after the plugin update.Maybe I messed it up. Trying again. No, it's broken.

:< WIND HALP!

Sat, 2016-02-20 16:26
WindyDelcarlo
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That's not just you. Some weird stuff had to be done to the plugins to make it function. Don't worry, this weekend, everything gets solved! (I hope!)

Sat, 2016-02-20 16:31
Decembra
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Thanks for reassuring me that I'm not just being a knob

Sat, 2016-02-20 16:37
WindyDelcarlo
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If you really want to update before then, halfway down page 10, Jacqui has some file corrections

Sat, 2016-02-20 16:44
Decembra
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Well I wouldn't want to go ahead and rush just to have the next update break because of that But thank you!

Sat, 2016-02-20 17:33
justnobody
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Is there an easily accessible banned list for MSE modern? I'm sure it's buried somewhere in the 13 pages of this thread, but we might want to add it to the first post, either here or in the MSE modern judge's lounge.

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Sat, 2016-02-20 17:35
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Sat, 2016-02-20 17:35
WindyDelcarlo
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At the bottom of the first page, Jacqui has a link to it. I'll probably add it to the OP here, and Sakon can update the Judge one if he thinks that's necessary

Sat, 2016-02-20 17:36
ThisisSakon
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Its on the Judge's lounge already. Under the banlist section, there's a link to the google doc

Sat, 2016-02-20 17:39
WindyDelcarlo
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Oh, okay, problem solved

Mon, 2016-02-22 04:26
voltaic-qui
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BTW, I fixed up the Dabriohm spreadsheet, so I think we'll have that added into the sets file.

formerly jacquipup

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Mon, 2016-02-22 05:15
WindyDelcarlo
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Oh, right, that was a problem, wasn't it? If I'd remember that I could've done that earlier I'll be adding Preasti shortly and probably releasing tomorrow