The M15 PW Extra Colors doesn't display casting costs correctly.

Give me a moment to check it out.

EDIT: Can you be more specific about the problem? It seems to be working just fine for me, but I could just be overlooking something.

It looks like X costs are colored. I'll fix that and update the installer.

When I type "R" into the casting cost, it shows up as "R" not ""

I'm not entirely sure, but the problem may be with your symbol fonts. Do you have Pichoro's M15 Extra template installed? It comes with mana fonts that this template needs. I would include them with the installer, but I don't want to redistribute Pichoro's material, in case he updates it.

You can find the M15 Extra template here.

Try installing that and tell me if the problem persists.

I've started going through your templates. So far, I've only done magic-m15-planeshifted. It's very good, but I'd like to make some suggestions.

1.) The first thing I did was look in the BAT file. I see you've changed it so that it builds your templates. Might I make a suggest making it a more normal one that includes all the dependencies, and then making yourself a BAT that builds all your templates but doesn't include the extra stuff? That's what happens with mine - there are two levels of BATs. There's the first level BATs which just build each individual template. I almost never use these. Instead, I have a folder full of large BATs that I use for building all of the large installers. Your large BAT would go in the same folder as your copy of MSE.exe. And it should say something like this inside:

2.) Planeshifted styles have "shifted sorting" as an option. If you look in magic-planeshifted.mse-style, there's a line of code:

card_shape := { if styling.shifted_sorting then "shifted" else "normal" }

and a styling choice:

styling field:
	type: boolean
	name: shifted sorting
	description: Should this style of card sort as a shifted card (after other cards of that color)?
	initial: yes

I've added them to my copy of your template. Would you do the same? And the same for the other planeshifted templates too? Each one might have it's own variation of the card_shape() function, but you could find their variation in their corresponding regular planeshifted template.

Now I'm looking at magic-m15-planeshifted-leveler.

3.) You should just go ahead and make this include the other files like other build.BAT files.

4.) Can I suggest changing the position hint to 004? I didn't say anything when commenting on magic-m15-planeshifted because it's position hint was 004. In my templates, I've assigned a position hint of 004 to all M15 templates that aren't actually printed, but are based on styles that have been printed.

5.) The card_shape script. This time it is is:

card_shape := { if styling.shifted_sorting then "shifted leveler" else "leveler" }

And then the same styling choice as above.

Now I'm on magic-m15-duplex.

6.) Of course I would suggest here is fixing the build BAT.

7.) I would also modify the blend masks. As they are now, there is sometimes a visible line in the textboxes, making it obvious what happened. For example, if you do a white/blue hybrid in the soon-to-be-mentioned M15 Planeshifted Duplex, the line can be seen on the left card face. It think it might just be that the hard line between the black and white in the mask is too far over when you've shrank the border on that side.

And now magic-m15-planeshifted-duplex.

8.) The build.bat again, of course. Just to be clear, I'm listing these just to be consistent with my number list, not to beat a dead horse.

9.) The blend masks mentioned in number 7.

10.) The card shape script. This time its:

card_shape := { if styling.shifted_sorting then "shifted" else "normal" }

I'll take care of these things ASAP. Thanks for your suggestions! The position hints in particular I just did willy-nilly, so I'm glad to have some input on those. It may take me some time, since I'm in college and finals are coming up for this quarter, but I'll make those changes as soon as I can.

No big deal. I'll go through installing the others later. I just sorta got tired out of templates for the morning.

I just got finished making the changes you suggested. Also, I fixed the most recent version of the M15 Planeshifted Duplex cards to have the correct border width, so the white line issue may have been resolved. I'll check out the duplex styles later and see if any glitches still happen.

EDIT: I checked. It happens. Damn. I'll fix it later, since I've got other stuff to do today, but at least I've made most of the changes so far.

EDIT EDIT: I couldn't get it off my mind, so I fixed it. Let me know if there are any more problems.

For some reason, when I run the template, it doesn't open. In the task manager, it is in background processes.
I tried converting it to a zip but it says it is corrupted.

It might be a problem with Mediafire. I'll try rebuilding and reuploading the installer later today.

Alright, I rebuilt and reuploaded the installer. I tested it out, and it seems to work alright. Try it now and let me know if you still have problems with it.

I like that M15 Split template a lot. Do you have any plans to modify it to support splits cards with Fuse?

As a matter of fact, that's the next thing I plan on making. I'm busy with finals right now, but today's my last one, so after this I'll be devoting more time to it.

I'm going through taking in your updates, and then plan to comment on more styles after that. But question - how do you feel about me packing these templates into my installers? I haven't gotten into your modified split styles, but what I've seen, your stuff is good.

As mentioned before, if everything else checks out, I'm willing to discuss giving you access to the source code I use.

Now I'm going through magic-m15-planeshifted-planeswalker.

And I actually find myself with no suggestions. Nice.

Next up is magic-m15-token-clear.

11.) Only one suggestion this time. Can I suggest a position hint of 002? This is the position hint I've assigned to all M15 styles that have been printed in the last two years.

This one also royally spazzed out on me when I added it and booted it up the first time, but I can't reproduce the error and no clue what happened. *shrug*

Now for magic-m15-split.

12.) The build.bat file needs the same treatment you gave the others mentioned previously.

13.) Would you give it position hint 004? This is the position hint for M15 styles that haven't been printed, but are based entirely on styles that have been printed.

Here's my key I've developed to help me classify them and assign position hints. This is the first time I've shared this. It works like a dichotomous key, except there is often more than one choice in a block.

The key doesn't include the main styles. For example, magic-m15 is position hint 001 all by itself. And magic-new is 011 and magic-old is 021 and so on.

As for the style, altogether not bad, although I'm totally of the opinion that when M15 split cards become real, we're going to find that they have the stamp and the text from the border on the left side. But, for now, that's merely an opinion.

And now I've done magic-m15-planeshifted-split. It was pristine.

And now your rendition of magic-new-split. This is an improvement over the old one in every way. And so, I'd like to take the contents and overwrite the official one with this one. Sound good? That will remove the need for yours.

I would also like to replace the current magic-planeshifted-split style with the contents of yours. And the same for magic-old-split.

I'm honored that you think it's that good! Feel free to replace it. Also, I've just finished making the fuse splits. The arrows are made kind of crudely, but they work. I'm going to include them in the installer soon.

Also, I'm fine with you packing my templates into your installers. I'd like for these templates to be as available as possible to the MSE community.

Awesome. Do you plan on going live with them in the next 24 hours? I'm probably going to go live with updates to my installers tomorrow evening.

Question - you seem to doing well. Are you up to altering the M15 sparker and sacrificer templates to be more accurate? I think what we have is fairly close. But the arrows in the bottom right of the textboxes need to face outward instead of inward, and we need new symbols for the upper left corners of the cards. Thoughts?

I've actually already added the fuse splits to the combined installer. I've also made the requested changes to the other templates, and updated the version date and installer accordingly. Let me know if there's anything you need me to do regarding the installers.

I actually tried updating the sparker template myself before. The part that gave me trouble was the symbols for the upper left corners. All the available scans of the flip walkers are pretty low-res, so I tried making the symbols manually. I eventually just gave up, but I could try taking another shot at it. I don't know if I'll be able to do it any time soon, though, since I'm taking summer classes. (I will, however, have a month free at the end of the summer, so I'll definitely have time then if I haven't had time before.)

By the way, here are some pics of the fuse splits. The watermarks are a bit larger, but I actually like how that looks. What I don't like is how the stamp overlaps the "fuse box." Not sure what to do about that.

I actually found the fuse splits right after I posted. Grabbed them too, and already did my own massive update. They were great, by the way.

Would you mind sending the frames you got done for sparkers? Perhaps I can push it further. My email is pichoro at users dot sourceforge dot net.

There's something bigger wrong with the duplex cards. When you look at my sample renders side-by-side, you can tell that they don't line up.

magic-new-duplex:

I haven't looked to see if I can fix it. Gotta get to bed.

I haven't actually made any frames for the sparkers. I just gave it a shot, but didn't save anything.

I'll check out the duplex cards and see what I can do.

Also, I found a problem with the m15 planeswalkers--when they have 4 abilities, the color indicator doesn't change position to stay on the typeline. I can go ahead and change that on all templates that need it.

I'm sure the planeswalkers will be easy to fix. I could do it soon enough if you're busy. I think it probably says something about how often indicators are used when you consider that this is the first time this has been reported, and they've been out how long?

Actually, doesn't look like I'm that busy. I already fixed them myself. I could send the fixed style files to you, if you'd like, but really, all you need to do is use the has_four_abilities() function to determine the "top" value.

The double-faced planeswalkers already have this feature, probably since it actually gets used there.

BTW, I've been messing around with the sparkers. It looks like the symbols won't be too difficult, but I'll have to wait until Jace's card gets previewed to get the color for the blue one. Turns out the arrows are going to be the hard part. I may even have to make new ones from scratch, but I could probably do it.

I now have a source for passable symbols, at least until better can be made. That makes the arrows the only problem. Is there anything I can do to help?

Actually, I think I've made a breakthrough with the arrows. It's not very elegant, but rotating the bottom-right corner of the textbox 90 degrees makes a very close approximation of the arrow.

Also, Jace's card was just previewed today! This means that I have a source for the color of the blue symbol. I'll have to make something up for artifacts, multicolor, and colorless, though. Also, I don't really like the way the shapes on my symbols look, so I'd want to refine them a bit before using them. I'll work on the arrows first, though.

Are you sure the symbols are different colors? I'm color blind, so I might miss it if they were, but I would strongly expect them to be the same color. Think about it - the symbols were the same color for DFCs, and type symbols for futureshifts only switched between ~white and ~black.

Edit: Actually, I'm looking at them, and am really sure the symbols in the top left are not color coded. Unless you're talking about the bit of piping that they sit in, but that already exists on the current sparker/sacrificer templates. So what are you talking about?

The circle in the upper-right corner of the creature side of the card does, in fact, have a color background rather than black. I'm not sure whether you can tell or not, but it might help to see them side-by-side.

However, the planeswalker sides of the cards do have black backgrounds for the symbols:

By the way, how's this look for the arrow?

The arrow looks great.

The arrow looks good, but it could be compared better if it had the p/t box.
By the way, text in M15 is covered by p/t box if it reaches the bottom.

Please do not try to fix the textbox/pt box clashing in M15. There are only three ways to do this, and only one is acceptable.

1. Text box masking. But text box masking is broken and unreliable.
2. Raising the textbox a little bit when there is p/t. But then the textbox will no longer be centered, or will be shrunk some in cases where it doesn't need to be. This shouldn't be happening.
3. The end user can add some spaces at the end, forcing the text to shrink exactly as much as needed, exactly when it should be. This is the correct solution.

Actually, one thing that does need fixing is the foil mask on M15-style cards, as the bottom half of the textbox is not covered by the foil layer. I made my own custom mask for this purpose, but I haven't made changes to all the templates.

Also, Pichoro, if you think that arrow looks good, I'll get started on the rest of the card frames.

To be honest, I haven't seen it, because whatever image host you use doesn't work on my browser.

I didn't even try to get the foil masking right for M15's. Would you share your mask?

Edit: Loading up in a different browser, it looks okay. But I would wonder how it looks with pt before your proceed, as was brought up by another poster.

I'm trying a different image host. Let me know if you're still having trouble seeing the pictures.

Here's the double-faced card with the P/T. (I'll also have to change the position that the back face's P/T is listed:

Here are my foil masks. You'll have to alter the script file to use them:

I don't know if you already noticed this but, the "new" sparkers have a different frame for the planeswalker half.
The bottom is completely round. No edges.
Additionally, it seems that only the front face has the foil stamp.

Thanks for pointing that out! I always strive for accuracy when making templates, so I'll bear that in mind when I do the planeswalker halves.

Love the extra color planeswalkers but the Tap and Untap symbols don't work.

I'm not sure why they're not working. They work on my version of the template. Do any other mana symbols work?

Dear Pichoro and Movezig5

I experience a problem whenever I try to install any of your templates and I know the fault is with me or my PC because it happens no matter which template I try to install. Can you help me?

I can't install any template. Whenever I try to, the template installs some of the content but before it finished, the installation stops abruptly. This is the message I receive: MSE stopped working. If I click on details this is what I can read:

Problemsignatur:
Navn på problemhændelse: APPCRASH
Programnavn: mse.exe
Programversion: 2.0.0.0
Tidsstempel for program: 4d4dcbb5
Fejlmodulnavn: mse.exe
Fejlmodulversion: 2.0.0.0
Tidsstempel for fejlmodul: 4d4dcbb5
Undtagelseskode: c0000005
Undtagelsesforskydning: 000b0fba
OS-version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
Landestandard-id: 1030
Flere oplysninger 1: 0f66
Flere oplysninger 2: 0f66230ae6f225cd240ddf62cc11da61
Flere oplysninger 3: db90
Flere oplysninger 4: db90f1127952b78df70ed99019a2fde0

The above is in Danish. Do you know how I can fix the installation problem?

Alt color planeswalkers problem: When I write any color but purple/pink in the textbox, it gives me that letter in a mana symbol circle, but not the mana symbol itself... And for purple/pink it gives me Pichoro's symbols. In the casting cost line it works just fine, but not inthe textbox...
Thanks in advance.

Kassow-Rossing - Move your installation out of Program Files and run the template installers again.

roeyba -- The pink/purple planeswalkers template requires Pichoro's extra mana symbols. Install Pichoro's M15 Extra template and you should see the symbols appear. Let me know if you're still having problems.

Pichoro I don't understand. Do you want me to remove Magic Set Editor from my (C:)? When I do that, my PC cannot open your watermark template.

What he means is to move it to C:\Users\<insertusername>\ instead of C:\Program Files\

Thanks

It doesn't have to be in C:\Users. It just has to be out of Program Files.

That depends on how his permissions are set. If it is in his user directory, it shouldn't be a problem. Other directories may or may not have permissions set that cause similar problems.